The teacher was officially discharged from the extradition earlier in July.
https://www.doughtystreet.co.uk/news/gr ... -offending
“ The judge noted that while the merits of the underlying allegations were not a matter for the English courts, the Turkish prosecution’s case was “concerning” given that inter alia the complainant was interviewed in a manner which failed to accord with best practice, including the use of leading questions; allegations made by the complainant and her family that the requested person had abused an additional 15 pupils were not supported by any other pupil; and, the injuries relied on by the Turkish prosecution allegedly to demonstrate sexual abuse were, according to the defence expert evidence, readily explained by poor hygiene.”
Due process can now hopefully continue in Türkiye. Good luck to Rebecca.
UK Teacher Discharged from Turkish Extradition
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None of which means anything. The UK Court denying extradition doesnt resolve the case, its not a finding of innocence. Miss Pedo is still a wanted fugitive from a EU Country with an active red notice for her arrest from child assault charges in Türkiye.
The controlling phrase being "not a matter for the English courts". Everyone has an opinion and the English Court judges opinion in the matter is just editorial fluff. Defense experts are bias for the defense, of course their claims are going to favor the defense.
The controlling phrase being "not a matter for the English courts". Everyone has an opinion and the English Court judges opinion in the matter is just editorial fluff. Defense experts are bias for the defense, of course their claims are going to favor the defense.
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The ‘editorial fluff’ is taken from the judgement delivered by Judge Mcgava. ‘Inter alia’ suggests this point was one of many he made about the quality of evidence after reviewing ALL court documents.
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It's not 'editorial fluff'.
The judge has to take into account various things in deciding on an extradition. That can include prison conditions, the length of time before trial, and the likelihood that any trial will be fair. To consider the last point, he has to look at the potential evidence against her and whether he believes it would stand up in a UK court. Without reading the full judgement it's difficult to say (it doesn't seem to have been published yet) but it looks to me like both the judge and the Crown Prosecution Service - who made the decision not to appeal - believe that the evidence would not prove the case beyond reasonable doubt. So, it appears to be his opinion was that the evidence was circumspect, which resulted in him rejecting the application.
That's not to say that she won't be tried in Turkiye 'in absentia', but it does mean that it's highly unlikely that she would be extradited if found guilty in their courts.
The judge has to take into account various things in deciding on an extradition. That can include prison conditions, the length of time before trial, and the likelihood that any trial will be fair. To consider the last point, he has to look at the potential evidence against her and whether he believes it would stand up in a UK court. Without reading the full judgement it's difficult to say (it doesn't seem to have been published yet) but it looks to me like both the judge and the Crown Prosecution Service - who made the decision not to appeal - believe that the evidence would not prove the case beyond reasonable doubt. So, it appears to be his opinion was that the evidence was circumspect, which resulted in him rejecting the application.
That's not to say that she won't be tried in Turkiye 'in absentia', but it does mean that it's highly unlikely that she would be extradited if found guilty in their courts.
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@expatscot this particular case of extradition does not need prima facie evidence to extradite which is why the judges observations (not “opinions” as @PsyGuy writes) are so important in the case moving forward.
You are right the judgement is not “fluff”. PsyGuy needs to stick to his lane and troll about what he knows. He has been particularly hateful on this topic and clearly does not realise he is speaking about a real person, with widely reported mental health issues whose innocence is probably going to be proved in the future. I pity his colleagues and students for his lack of compassion.
The defence evidence IS important and until recently this had not made the media.
You are right the judgement is not “fluff”. PsyGuy needs to stick to his lane and troll about what he knows. He has been particularly hateful on this topic and clearly does not realise he is speaking about a real person, with widely reported mental health issues whose innocence is probably going to be proved in the future. I pity his colleagues and students for his lack of compassion.
The defence evidence IS important and until recently this had not made the media.
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No, it is editorial fluff.
Neither Judge Mcgava, the CPS, nor the English Courts have any jurisdiction or authority in deciding the merits of the case beyond extradition. Denying extradition is not an acquittal on the merits, evidence or facts in regards to Miss Pedos guilt or innocence against the child abuse charges in Turkiye. Any comment of Judge Mcgava, the CPS or the English Courts as a whole is nothing more than an opinion rendered with no more force or authority than any other opinion of someone who is not presiding or prosecuting the case in Turkiye.
Neither Judge Mcgava, the CPS, nor the English Courts have any jurisdiction or authority in deciding the merits of the case beyond extradition. Denying extradition is not an acquittal on the merits, evidence or facts in regards to Miss Pedos guilt or innocence against the child abuse charges in Turkiye. Any comment of Judge Mcgava, the CPS or the English Courts as a whole is nothing more than an opinion rendered with no more force or authority than any other opinion of someone who is not presiding or prosecuting the case in Turkiye.
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We know this is an extradition case but most people are relieved she does not have to languish in a Turkish prison for years until all methods of appeal have ended. An opinion from the UK legal system is a plus for putting pressure on Turkish authorities and also for her reputation.
Again, the findings in the extradition case will also be useful for the court in Strasbourg.
It is abundantly clear from Mcgarva’s findings that mental health was and is a huge issue so there is zero question now that she should have gone back to Türkiye.
Again, the findings in the extradition case will also be useful for the court in Strasbourg.
It is abundantly clear from Mcgarva’s findings that mental health was and is a huge issue so there is zero question now that she should have gone back to Türkiye.