@Heliotrope
Im sure you think so, theyre your neurotransmitters so whatever works for your brain chemistry.
That type of rationalization and affective assurance only exists in the mire of your mind where it can exist as a thought experiment, and for which you can dismiss consequences, repercussions, and complexities of factors and variables with the wave of plot armor and script immunity. It ignores the cold stone reality that these adversarial regimes are not going to trade nobodies in like kind.
You are in a position of power though. You elect these people to represent and carryout these actions. When you vote youre exercising political authority. Those deals are made on your behalf.
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Heliotrope
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PsyGuy wrote:
> @Heliotrope
>
> Im sure you think so, theyre your neurotransmitters so whatever works for
> your brain chemistry.
>
> That type of rationalization and affective assurance only exists in the
> mire of your mind where it can exist as a thought experiment, and for which
> you can dismiss consequences, repercussions, and complexities of factors
> and variables with the wave of plot armor and script immunity. It ignores
> the cold stone reality that these adversarial regimes are not going to
> trade nobodies in like kind.
>
> You are in a position of power though. You elect these people to represent
> and carryout these actions. When you vote youre exercising political
> authority. Those deals are made on your behalf.
Likewise.
What rationalization?
Yes, indirectly there's a modicum of power a voter has.
I was talking about discretionary power over whether or not the trade is done or not though.
> @Heliotrope
>
> Im sure you think so, theyre your neurotransmitters so whatever works for
> your brain chemistry.
>
> That type of rationalization and affective assurance only exists in the
> mire of your mind where it can exist as a thought experiment, and for which
> you can dismiss consequences, repercussions, and complexities of factors
> and variables with the wave of plot armor and script immunity. It ignores
> the cold stone reality that these adversarial regimes are not going to
> trade nobodies in like kind.
>
> You are in a position of power though. You elect these people to represent
> and carryout these actions. When you vote youre exercising political
> authority. Those deals are made on your behalf.
Likewise.
What rationalization?
Yes, indirectly there's a modicum of power a voter has.
I was talking about discretionary power over whether or not the trade is done or not though.
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@Heliotrope
The rationalization that both are attainable given real world contexts. Youll dismiss it by claiming youre capable of forming and holding contrary thoughts and feelings at the same time. Ill counter that process is called rationalization. You will retort that it isnt, I will respond with a meme of dismissiveness while reasserting that it is, and which will then repeat in cycle until one of us ceases; upon which the last poster will mentally declare victory. Which should not be unexpected by either of us.
The rationalization that both are attainable given real world contexts. Youll dismiss it by claiming youre capable of forming and holding contrary thoughts and feelings at the same time. Ill counter that process is called rationalization. You will retort that it isnt, I will respond with a meme of dismissiveness while reasserting that it is, and which will then repeat in cycle until one of us ceases; upon which the last poster will mentally declare victory. Which should not be unexpected by either of us.
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PsyGuy wrote:
> @Heliotrope
>
> The rationalization that both are attainable given real world contexts.
> Youll dismiss it by claiming youre capable of forming and holding contrary
> thoughts and feelings at the same time. Ill counter that process is called
> rationalization. You will retort that it isnt, I will respond with a meme
> of dismissiveness while reasserting that it is, and which will then repeat
> in cycle until one of us ceases; upon which the last poster will mentally
> declare victory. Which should not be unexpected by either of us.
Those two feelings aren’t contrary, because they’re about different things. I can be unhappy about the prisoner swap, and at the same time relieved that he’s finally home with his family. Sure, a good outcome depends on a bad event — but that doesn’t make the emotions contradictory.
If my father passed away and left me his car right after mine broke down, I could feel both grief over his death and relief that he left me the car instead of his wine collection. Those two emotions would be directed at different aspects of the same event.
> @Heliotrope
>
> The rationalization that both are attainable given real world contexts.
> Youll dismiss it by claiming youre capable of forming and holding contrary
> thoughts and feelings at the same time. Ill counter that process is called
> rationalization. You will retort that it isnt, I will respond with a meme
> of dismissiveness while reasserting that it is, and which will then repeat
> in cycle until one of us ceases; upon which the last poster will mentally
> declare victory. Which should not be unexpected by either of us.
Those two feelings aren’t contrary, because they’re about different things. I can be unhappy about the prisoner swap, and at the same time relieved that he’s finally home with his family. Sure, a good outcome depends on a bad event — but that doesn’t make the emotions contradictory.
If my father passed away and left me his car right after mine broke down, I could feel both grief over his death and relief that he left me the car instead of his wine collection. Those two emotions would be directed at different aspects of the same event.
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Heliotrope
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PsyGuy wrote:
> @Heliotrope
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> Neither of your scenarios are about different things, they are about
> related "things". Youre rationalizing that they are.
You're welcome to call them related.
Still, you've never had two different emotions about two different aspects of the same event?
Can you perhaps imagine being happy so many friends showing up for little PsyGuy's 7th birthday ., but also sad your best friend Timmy wasn't able to make it due to a cold?
If your family home was struck by an earthquake while you were out, killing most of your family, would you not still be happy if you unexpectedly found one them still alive under the rubble, while also being sad that the rest didn't make it?
If you found out you overpaid for a painting and were mad about that, would you really be unable to still appreciate it's beauty?
> @Heliotrope
>
> Neither of your scenarios are about different things, they are about
> related "things". Youre rationalizing that they are.
You're welcome to call them related.
Still, you've never had two different emotions about two different aspects of the same event?
Can you perhaps imagine being happy so many friends showing up for little PsyGuy's 7th birthday ., but also sad your best friend Timmy wasn't able to make it due to a cold?
If your family home was struck by an earthquake while you were out, killing most of your family, would you not still be happy if you unexpectedly found one them still alive under the rubble, while also being sad that the rest didn't make it?
If you found out you overpaid for a painting and were mad about that, would you really be unable to still appreciate it's beauty?