Hi, I am wondering if this certification is accepted at most international schools? I tried to PM Psych guy, and know he will have the best answer, but it would work or he doesn't accept them.
FYI, I have a BA, MA in Education Leadership and MS in International Ed
American Board Certification
Response
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There are two certificates involved one is the ABCTE certificate itself which is what you get after completing the online American Board Certification program. The Second is, you can use ABCTE as an EPP/ITT program in a number of states and obtain a credential if you meet the requirements. The major issue is that ABCTE doesnt provide a field experience directly. This means your credential from these states is going to be a form in the category referred to as permits/permitted credentials as opposed to a regular credential. These permits are of limited duration (about 3 years), are not renewable, and typically require you to obtain a teaching position working in that state, as your DS will have to sponsor your credential (permit). This usually isnt a burden an IT can accommodate successfully.
This leaves the ABCTE certificate itself. There are ISs that will accept the ABCTE certificate as a working credential. Its not a small number of ISs either, its just that youre not likely to get out of the third tier based on an ABCTE certificate alone. You have some very marketable (academic) qualifications, and a credential would augment your resume in your favor, but the ABCTE program isnt going to do that. An IS willing to hire you with an ABCTE certificate alone would likely hire you based on only your degree qualifications.
While the cost is very attractive compared to those of Teach Now or Teach Ready, you can use those EPP/ITT programs to obtain a regular Professional grade credential. If you just want a certificate than ACSI offers a much less expensive alternative (USD$75). You can get an MA Provisional (Entry grade) credential thats a regular credential by taking a few professional edu exams.
There are two certificates involved one is the ABCTE certificate itself which is what you get after completing the online American Board Certification program. The Second is, you can use ABCTE as an EPP/ITT program in a number of states and obtain a credential if you meet the requirements. The major issue is that ABCTE doesnt provide a field experience directly. This means your credential from these states is going to be a form in the category referred to as permits/permitted credentials as opposed to a regular credential. These permits are of limited duration (about 3 years), are not renewable, and typically require you to obtain a teaching position working in that state, as your DS will have to sponsor your credential (permit). This usually isnt a burden an IT can accommodate successfully.
This leaves the ABCTE certificate itself. There are ISs that will accept the ABCTE certificate as a working credential. Its not a small number of ISs either, its just that youre not likely to get out of the third tier based on an ABCTE certificate alone. You have some very marketable (academic) qualifications, and a credential would augment your resume in your favor, but the ABCTE program isnt going to do that. An IS willing to hire you with an ABCTE certificate alone would likely hire you based on only your degree qualifications.
While the cost is very attractive compared to those of Teach Now or Teach Ready, you can use those EPP/ITT programs to obtain a regular Professional grade credential. If you just want a certificate than ACSI offers a much less expensive alternative (USD$75). You can get an MA Provisional (Entry grade) credential thats a regular credential by taking a few professional edu exams.
Re: Response
PsyGuy wrote:
> PMs are disabled on the public/open forum.
>
> There are two certificates involved one is the ABCTE certificate itself
> which is what you get after completing the online American Board
> Certification program. The Second is, you can use ABCTE as an EPP/ITT
> program in a number of states and obtain a credential if you meet the
> requirements. The major issue is that ABCTE doesnt provide a field
> experience directly. This means your credential from these states is going
> to be a form in the category referred to as permits/permitted credentials
> as opposed to a regular credential. These permits are of limited duration
> (about 3 years), are not renewable, and typically require you to obtain a
> teaching position working in that state, as your DS will have to sponsor
> your credential (permit). This usually isnt a burden an IT can accommodate
> successfully.
> This leaves the ABCTE certificate itself. There are ISs that will accept
> the ABCTE certificate as a working credential. Its not a small number of
> ISs either, its just that youre not likely to get out of the third tier
> based on an ABCTE certificate alone. You have some very marketable
> (academic) qualifications, and a credential would augment your resume in
> your favor, but the ABCTE program isnt going to do that. An IS willing to
> hire you with an ABCTE certificate alone would likely hire you based on
> only your degree qualifications.
> While the cost is very attractive compared to those of Teach Now or Teach
> Ready, you can use those EPP/ITT programs to obtain a regular Professional
> grade credential. If you just want a certificate than ACSI offers a much
> less expensive alternative (USD$75). You can get an MA Provisional (Entry
> grade) credential thats a regular credential by taking a few professional
> edu exams.
Thank you, I knew you would have a good answer.
> PMs are disabled on the public/open forum.
>
> There are two certificates involved one is the ABCTE certificate itself
> which is what you get after completing the online American Board
> Certification program. The Second is, you can use ABCTE as an EPP/ITT
> program in a number of states and obtain a credential if you meet the
> requirements. The major issue is that ABCTE doesnt provide a field
> experience directly. This means your credential from these states is going
> to be a form in the category referred to as permits/permitted credentials
> as opposed to a regular credential. These permits are of limited duration
> (about 3 years), are not renewable, and typically require you to obtain a
> teaching position working in that state, as your DS will have to sponsor
> your credential (permit). This usually isnt a burden an IT can accommodate
> successfully.
> This leaves the ABCTE certificate itself. There are ISs that will accept
> the ABCTE certificate as a working credential. Its not a small number of
> ISs either, its just that youre not likely to get out of the third tier
> based on an ABCTE certificate alone. You have some very marketable
> (academic) qualifications, and a credential would augment your resume in
> your favor, but the ABCTE program isnt going to do that. An IS willing to
> hire you with an ABCTE certificate alone would likely hire you based on
> only your degree qualifications.
> While the cost is very attractive compared to those of Teach Now or Teach
> Ready, you can use those EPP/ITT programs to obtain a regular Professional
> grade credential. If you just want a certificate than ACSI offers a much
> less expensive alternative (USD$75). You can get an MA Provisional (Entry
> grade) credential thats a regular credential by taking a few professional
> edu exams.
Thank you, I knew you would have a good answer.
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shaolefen1
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Re: American Board Certification
One of the states that might accept ABCTE is Wisconsin, and while it expires after 3 years it can be renewed. If I'm wrong about that, it's likely you can either apply for a license from another state based on reciprocity or apply for a license from another state based on having completed the ABCTE certificate. I haven't seen any information about limits on accepting it after a certain number of years. I hope that's true because I'm about to start the course for the same reason.
Discussion
WI utilizes ABCTE as an EPP/ITT program. When you complete ABCTE and apply with the WI DOE they will issue a Tier II provisional credential, this is an Entry grade credential, this is renewable every 3 years, PD is not required.
In WI there are four "tiers" of credentials. Tier I credentials are permits. Tier II-IV are regular credentials. Tier II credentials are Entry grade credentials, Tier III are Standard grade credentials, and Tier IV is the Advanced grade credential.
First, with this pathway you wouldnt feasibly be able to transition to the Standard (Tier III) credential unless you relocate to WI and teach there.
Second, without a field experience component you can document, this credential has low portability among other states. You wouldnt be able to meet the requirements for QTS through reciprocity, for example. While ABCTE is an EPP/ITT provider, they are more a study provider for an assessment based pathway.
Its not that you cant accomplish these things with ABCTE, you can, the question is why compared to alternatives. The MA Provisional credential is also an Entry grade credential and would only require a few hundred USD in testing and application fees as opposed to the USD$2K ABCTE charges. This would be an effective lifetime credential that not only doesnt require PD but doesnt even need to be renewed. The MA Provisional also allows for a broader selection of content areas (the WI ABCTE program only allows Elementary, ELA/Literature, Science, Maths, Social Studies, and SPED/SEN/LD).
The only scenario where the ABCTE and WI pathway is advantageous is in the case of SPED/SEN/LD. Assessment based pathways in SPED/SEN/LD are very difficult to find and when they are, such as with the MA pathway it would be an exhaustive list of requirements.
MA does have an additional 10hr requirement working with students with disabilities in the classroom for Elementary. Which you could fill on the cheap through Coursera, or through an IB workshop on the pricey side.
In the case of the LW with both bachelors/first degrees and a Masters in edu, nothing ABCTE provides itself is either of no value or over priced. Further, MA has a rather easy pathway to an executive leadership credential.
In WI there are four "tiers" of credentials. Tier I credentials are permits. Tier II-IV are regular credentials. Tier II credentials are Entry grade credentials, Tier III are Standard grade credentials, and Tier IV is the Advanced grade credential.
First, with this pathway you wouldnt feasibly be able to transition to the Standard (Tier III) credential unless you relocate to WI and teach there.
Second, without a field experience component you can document, this credential has low portability among other states. You wouldnt be able to meet the requirements for QTS through reciprocity, for example. While ABCTE is an EPP/ITT provider, they are more a study provider for an assessment based pathway.
Its not that you cant accomplish these things with ABCTE, you can, the question is why compared to alternatives. The MA Provisional credential is also an Entry grade credential and would only require a few hundred USD in testing and application fees as opposed to the USD$2K ABCTE charges. This would be an effective lifetime credential that not only doesnt require PD but doesnt even need to be renewed. The MA Provisional also allows for a broader selection of content areas (the WI ABCTE program only allows Elementary, ELA/Literature, Science, Maths, Social Studies, and SPED/SEN/LD).
The only scenario where the ABCTE and WI pathway is advantageous is in the case of SPED/SEN/LD. Assessment based pathways in SPED/SEN/LD are very difficult to find and when they are, such as with the MA pathway it would be an exhaustive list of requirements.
MA does have an additional 10hr requirement working with students with disabilities in the classroom for Elementary. Which you could fill on the cheap through Coursera, or through an IB workshop on the pricey side.
In the case of the LW with both bachelors/first degrees and a Masters in edu, nothing ABCTE provides itself is either of no value or over priced. Further, MA has a rather easy pathway to an executive leadership credential.