by PsyGuy » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:09 pm
@SJ
Thats true but its not really relevant, the position was first were noob/ ITs with 2 kids and we want to skip the line to the top ISs, and thats not going to happen, but the were intern class ITs with 2 kids who want to skip to the second tier ISs isnt going to happen either. Were looking at around 5 years (4-6 years) before these ITs are reasonably marketable to 2nd tier ISs. Thats not their kids in lower primary or EY/EC its upper primary or lower secondary of having their kids in relatively poor ISs. That factor seemed to be important to the LW.
These credential areas are either over saturated to be marketable or to restricted to be marketable. Theres nothing impressing about a primary DT who hasnt been in a classroom,when there are plenty who have. Nor is there anything impressing to a DS about a health DT (without PE, no experience and isnt coaching)or a middle school English literature DT who has never been in a classroom, theres plenty of those DTs who have seen the inside of a classroom. The only cert thats maybe worth a flyer is the ESOL and thats only if the DT is bilingual, otherwise the LW is looking at a lot of frustration for what is a resource ESOL DT who has never been in a classroom, maybe that flyer is something a title 1 DS has to go with because thats all they can get but IB DSs usually dont have to do that.
@SparkleMotion
Thats not even the worst, an extra year to get there isnt even the worst, the worst isnt even spending your years in third tier ISs. You are still a very expensive hire, and your not going to be reward positive for quite some time, and even then your still competing with a lot of positive reward ITs as well. This isnt a 'one more year' and we get there.
Health isnt a marketable subject without PE. Elementary is highly saturated in IE and DE, and you dont have a background in education, not until you finish the edu Masters. English (Literature) at your age levels is just lower secondary, and you need upper secondary and SLL literature to be marketable. The ESOL is your most marketable, and maybe in 5 years youll be a reward positive IT, but at the tiers of ISs your going to be marketable too, those ISs will just as easily appoint someone local, or a trailing spouse, or something else. Third tier ISs generally dont put a lot of resources into ESOL (unless thats what they are is an ES).
This highlights one of the major problems you have and its that your at the cover letter writing stage, you dont actually have any of this experience and getting a local appointment in an IB DS in what are essentially saturated subjects is a reach, you could be waiting years with a resume thats just ageing and not growing, because there are plenty of middle school English and elementary and health DTs in Florida.
Student teaching, clinical teaching, practicum, internship, its all field work/field experience.
That might be what your saying now, its not what you wrote to begin with. Even in 6-8 years your still an expensive hire, and its still much more likely you wont be at an elite tier IS, lots of ITs are waiting and competing for those opportunities, and checking a box doesnt make it happen, getting into the room, gets you into a very crowded room of other ITs just like you, and many that are cheaper. Meanwhile in 6-8 years your likely to still be at a second tier IS. Two years in lower tier ISs, two years at upper third tier, two years getting SLL, two years getting IB (because IB ISs fill a lot of the second tier ISs and bridge third tier ITs careers to first tier ISs, you dont have to do IB you can get to the first tier without it, since a lot of first tier ISs are NC ISs, but it usually takes longer and means more time at third tier), at that point your hopefully sitting in a second tier IS, but thats 8 years and your still not at an elite tier IS.
To be direct this should all be activities your spouse is pursuing, hes the focus IT, without him your an ESOL IT with a trailing spouse and 2 kids and thats unemployable. Youre essentially his trailing spouse who can teach a few areas, mostly ESOL if thats what it takes to get the contract made, but this doesnt happen at all without him, and his pathway is much more prescribed. He needs to get a credential, then 2 years teaching lower secondary maths so he can figure out the teaching skills (the first 2 years of a DTs/ITs career are lesson planing and classroom management), then two years upper secondary, then two years SLL (likely AP), and somewhere in there IB or else your looking at another 2 years at MYP IB before you get into DIP and then your looking at 3 years for solid DIP scores, that gets him in a solid tier 2 IB IS, and applying for 1st/elite tier ISs. Thats about 8 years (all while dragging you along), and your kids are in senior school.
Sure you can make it work, but where you want to be is likely going to take a decade, not a year there, a year here and maybe one more year. You (your spouse) should understand that the US system is rather unique among IE, there is no AP Algebra, or AP Trig, or AP Geometry or other math its calculus and statistics only. The rest of the main IE curriculum (most notably A levels, IGCSE, and IB) have integrated approaches to maths that bundle the pure and classical maths studies of algebra, geometry, trigonometry, and calculus, with mechanical and statistics based maths all into a full course, courses arent discreet as they are in the US where they typical 4x4 sequence of math for the college prep sequence is: Algebra, Geometry, Algebra/Trigonometry, Calculus. Thats a lot, and ISs, especially high tier ISs dont put maths ITs into SLL subjects where exam scores matter unless they are absolutely certain that the IT can deliver.