UK Teacher Discharged from Turkish Extradition

Intl.Teach
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Re: UK Teacher Discharged from Turkish Extradition

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“I can absolutely compare illnesses and standards. Being ill or having a mental diagnosis is not a pass for criminal activity or behavior, if shes not responsible for her actions as a matter of disease or mental defect she can raise that defense at trial in Türkiye at trial.”

The point is @PsyGuy is that her illness not being used as an “excuse” not to be tried or detained. She could have been detained in the UK, but would have been less of a suicide risk because of family support, no solitary confinement and English speaking psychiatric care. Currently prisoners cannot complete prison sentences in their home country until the end of the criminal proceedings, so that was not an option, either.

She will not be convicted in absentia. She will just become a fugitive.

Who knows if Türkiye will renew a red notice or drop the proceedings due to time limits. Coming up to seven years now?

She is not a fugitive in the UK.

Her local community and the staff she worked for believe in her innocence. You are not informed enough to say just her family are standing by her.

The case is BS. I think you are the one person who believes otherwise, other than the claimants. The evidence. Not compelling g. Flawed. A country too scared of back lash and looking weak to turn a lens on what may really have been happening?

Conjecture often becomes fact.
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@Intl.Teach

The point is that Miss Pedos mental illness is very much being used as an excuse. Had she committed her offenses in the UK she would most surely be detained and held and being depressed would not be a cause to release her without significant bail conditions. Your presumption is that she is innocent ergo any suffering prior to her inevitable exoneration is unreasonable, but you dont know shes innocent, she may very well have done everything shes accused of and your position to the contrary is just a belief. Your presumption is thus erroneous, and based on a premise you havent and cant prove.

She could be tried and convicted in absentia, Türkiye has done it before.

My magic eight ball isnt any worse (or better) than your crystal ball. There isnt a limit to how long trial proceedings can be continued. Miss Pedo is already a fugitive. Shes not a convict yet, but shes most certainly a fugitive, theres both a current and valid Turkish warrant for her arrest and a red notice for her detention. Further, upon her conviction (in absentia included) her discharge from extradition can be re-examined by the UK Courts.

Miss Pedo is a fugitive EVERYWHERE else but the UK.

Im sufficiently informed of the generalities and specifics to form my own opinion, rather than blindly defer to the bias of Miss Pedos friends and family.

So what, my own counsel will I keep on what I believe, I need not defer to your popularity contest. More than I, find the evidence compelling, the prosecution as only one example.

Faith likewise becomes fact when the the only necessary and sufficient requirement is belief.
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Re: UK Teacher Discharged from Turkish Extradition

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“The evidence compelling”.

You clearly have not been in the Turkish or UK courts to form any opinion on the evidence. Further evidence, witnesses and reports have been submitted in both countries. Eminent legal professionals do not think Richardson would be convicted. Also. She was never bailed in Türkiye due to lack of evidence? No new evidence has ever been produced by the claimants?

My ‘opinion’ is based on research and facts. I do not hold a crystal ball. However, I have heard and read all public court documents and spoken to individuals who have been in. Court.

NellyPB and myself speak of support lacking from one specific area. Support that Neil Bantelman very publicly received and did no harm to anybody’s reputation.

Mental Health. Not an excuse. She DID have strict bail conditions and a bond in the UK and the prosecution called for her to be detained. She could have faced further restrictions but has not. Where is the avoidance? The Turkish court actually knew of her UK address as it had been supplied on numerous occasion's. She still had to be arrested rather than allowed to surrender at Westminster.

As yet, the court in Türkiye has not recognised her arrest and extradition case.

Crystal ball. Experience has shown and two eminent Turkish experts made a detailed and informed prediction that Richardson’s case would probably take a further three years to be tried.

@PsyGuy are you an eminent legal professional? Have you read court papers? Have you been or know of anybody who attended court hearings?

Go do Christmas holidays or whatever grinch or Scrooge type things you do when you are out for the holidays.
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@Intl.Teach

Yes, I find the evidence against Miss Pedo compelling.

I post only from experience and reliable and trusted sources. I have been to Türkiye and the UK. The UK Courts have no bearing or jurisdiction in the case. Their ONLY relevance in the case was an extradition hearing where it was denied. Again, extradition is not exoneration.
Thats just something our "Eminent legal professionals" think. They are certainly entitled to their opinion, but its just that an opinion. They arent the presiding judicial officer and adjudicator in the case.

A Turkish arrest warrant was issued for her arrest by the Turkish authorities, a further red notice was issued for her detention anywhere she may be found and to be detained. Its still an active warrant and notice. Miss Pedo has not surrendered herself to Turkish authorities in compliance of the warrant.

My opinion is likewise based on research and my interpretation of observations, just as yours is. Your facts arent facts they are disputed claims. They are no more credible or valid than mine.

Miss Pedo has no right, nor entitlement, nor privilege to support from anyone. Shes a fugitive from justice with a trail of victims in her past, just like Jeffrey Epstein.

Mental health is absolutely being used as an excuse. Miss Pedo is a child abuser, that her crimes make her sad, they are the cause of her alleged crimes, her depression is a result of her criminal actions.

The evidence is in Türkiye. Thats were Miss Pedos victim is.

Of course they knew of her location and address, thats why they applied for her extradition in the UK Courts.

Why would Türkiye recognize her extradition, shes a wanted fugitive in Türkiye. She committed her crimes in Türkiye, not in the UK. Why hasnt INTERPOL rescinded the red notice? The UK should have respected the request for extradition as it came from an EU partner state. We could play your Trumpian whatifs all day. Miss Pedo is a wanted fugitive everywhere but the UK, this is what you refer to as a "fact".

Your "eminent Turkish experts" are making a guess, they have no data for their prediction other than its something they think. They may as well have read it on a fortune cookie.

No, Yes, and Yes.

Happy Christmas.
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Re: UK Teacher Discharged from Turkish Extradition

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“In Turkish law, a fugitive (kaçak) is defined as a person who deliberately hides within Turkey or in a foreign country to avoid investigation or prosecution, making it impossible for a public prosecutor or court to reach them.
The status of "fugitive" is a specific legal classification used in criminal procedure, regulated under Article 248 of the Turkish Criminal Procedure Code. “

There are FACTS from court minutes and defendant petitions of how hard they fought to be part of the court proceedings/investigation (through video link, written testament and mutual legal agreement investigations.) I am not repeating my insistence that law enforcement knew of her address or mental illness.

The rest is regressive repetition by yourself @psyguy.

Ho ho ho. That’s not me being festive btw it’s just in response to your ridiculous comparisons and lack of FACTs.

Roll on a judgement in Europe.

https://rednoticemonitor.com/how-turkiy ... ce-system/
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@Intl.Teach

No, its not. In the Turkish Criminal Procedure Code its Article 247 that contains the definition of a fugitive:
"Article 247 – (1) An individual who hides himself within the country in order to invalidate a pending prosecution against him, or IS [emphasis added] in a foreign country and for this reason the court cannot reach him, shall be called fugitive."
You can find it here on p. 119
https://www.unodc.org/cld/uploads/res/d ... e_Code.pdf

Thats exactly what Miss Pedo is, she IS IN a foreign country and the Court can not reach her. Turkish Law is very specific in its definition and words matter. Shes a fugitive (EVERYWHERE except the UK), theres a valid and lawful active Turkish warrant for her arrest and a red notice for her detention as a fugitive of justice.

The FACT is the Court does not have to accommodate Miss Pedo, the Court proceedings are conducted according to Turkish criminal procedures, not according to how Miss Pedo wants the proceedings conducted.

Hopefully she will be tried in abstention, found guilty and then thrown into a cell to wallow in her depression caused by her own criminal behavior, such that her child victims, who were entrusted to her, and which she abused, can have justice.

Only data matters.The entirety of your repetitive ravings being nothing more than the sycophancy of a child pedo traitor and a member of the Epstein alliance.

A judgement of nothing but some lawyers with a website.
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Pathetic opinion. One alleged victim. Enough evidence to clear her.

Wait for the European court.
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Re: UK Teacher Discharged from Turkish Extradition

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We have a poster who has researched legal processes and and a poster who has researched details in the court case.

Points for consideration:-

“The European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR), also known as the Strasbourg Court,is an international court of the Council of Europe which interprets the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR). The court hears applications alleging that a contracting state has breached one or more of the human rights enumerated in the convention or its optional protocols to which a member state is a .. The court is based in Strasbourg, France.”
I believe both parties will apply to Strasbourg at the end of an appeal in Türkiye. It will be years away. That is not prediction. It is a fact.

Richardson clearly cares little right now about a teaching career and international travel. It is clear (in her own words) she needed to be in a home country for support from her family, to care for her dying father and be near her elderly mother. No. She would not have got to do that if she stayed in Türkiye. The trial process is very long.

You can apply to delete a red notice but there are many applications and many cases are heard in one sitting. It is dependent upon information volunteered by both parties and is not a full hearing.

NOBODY wins an extradition case on not being given a fair trial half way through due process in a member state. Judges will always rule that there are mechanisms to appeal etc.

It has come to light through the Harry Dunn case that the FCO in the UK are at times inept and unhelpful. Again, Richardson wrote to FCO for support and guidance. Of course, they worry more about diplomacy than supporting individuals. Anne Saccoolas? was given a chance to appear by video link in that case. A young adult had been killed but rules were stretched.

Richardson had no bail in 2019 in Türkiye as there was no evidence to hold her. She had bail conditions during extradition as she was a flight risk and needed to attend court. The Istanbul Convention and border control take child abuse cases very seriously. Again, the UK could have placed restrictions on Richardson at any point in the last six years but never have, only bail for extradition.

The mother and child both claimed Richardson abused all children in the class. This is not historic abuse that persons have buried and repressed. Law enforcement, school counsellors and trained psychologists were engaged to assist in the questioning of pupils and their parents.Nobody could corroborate the child’s alleged assault and no other allegations came to light. Witnesses named by the claimants are now witnesses for the defence.

For confidential reasons it is not fair or appropriate to discuss the claimants health issues. Parents of young children and Early years staff would recognise and perceive the symptoms as normal given the background and the fact they persisted for weeks after the alleged assault.

The parents say that the child came home from school with injuries but then waited three days to report it after the child told them of events.

During extradition more detail was given about DNA. It bares no similarities to the stories published in Turkish press and is not really of a concern in the ‘actual’ case. It is an administrative necessity in an arrest, as in the UK. Richardson was in the UK after an order was given to collect samples.

Happy New Year.

I wish the dedicated teaching staff out there good admin and support.
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@NellyPB

We have a contributor who doesnt know where the definition of a Fugitive is nor what that definition is in Turkish law.

Its not a fact, its not even a prediction its a guess. Its very possible and reasonably probable that whatever the outcome is its one that neither . appeals to the ECHR. Further, the ECHR may very well uphold the Turkish conviction and sentence. Again, it bears and merits repeating she may well have committed the crimes Miss Pedo is accused of.

Liars lie and Miss Pedo, using her own words could be lying, she may want to return to teaching.
If Miss Pedo is guilty of everything or even anything shes accused of why should anyone care about her support. Shes an accused and maybe guilty child pedo rapist and abuser. There are a LOT of criminals who would like support or have things to attend to (like carrying for elderly family) but they dont get to do them because justice demands they have a sentence to fulfill, and while Miss Pedo stands accused she is subject to whatever process Turkish law requires which may include pretrial detention.

The Turkish government hasnt applied to have Miss Pedos red notice withdrawn or deleted, theres a valid warrant for her arrest issued by the Turkish authorities, shes an active and current fugitive.

No, judges dont ALWAYS rule one way or another.

No they arent, there is no FCO, it doesnt exist. There exists an FCDO (Foreign Commonwealth and Development Office) responsible for what has been referred to as "the foreign office" and which assumed the role of the previous FCO.
All government is at times inept and unhelpful, its the government, its run by humans. Everything fails at some point, even the universe will at some point fail at being a universe. This includes the foreign office.

Prior cases are no guarantee in future cases, precedent is just guidance, its not regulation.

A lack of bail doesnt create mitigation or extenuation of Miss Pedo being a fugitive. She had no bail was free to leave Türkiye, did leave Türkiye for the UK and then Türkiye issued a warrant for her arrest and demanded she return for trial, a red notice was then subsequently filed. Knowing her location the Turkish government applied for extradition, it was denied. Extradition and exoneration are different things. The first part doesnt negate the second part, that was then this is now, and the now of it is that Miss Pedo is a fugitive everywhere outside of the UK. The discharge of her extradition may well be revisited in the UK but the UK Court upon her conviction, which she may appeal, and may or may not be successful at appeal to the ECHR.

None of the law enforcement, school counselors, or trained psychologists were there. They are certainly entitled to an opinion, but thats all, they are not finders of fact, there opinion profession, expert or otherwise is just an opinion.
Just because Miss Pedo was a good abuser in concealing her abuse and took care and steps to conceal it from witnesses doesnt mean it didnt happen. Trees falling in the forest and all.
Jerry Epsteins long history of abuse didnt come to light until it did.

It is entirely fair to discuss Miss Pedos health issues when they are manufactured to escape accountability and responsibility.

So what a young child might need time to process their assault and abuse from you know trauma. What three days is the statue of limitations on reporting abuse?

Stories can differ.

A joyous New Year to all.
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