“I can absolutely compare illnesses and standards. Being ill or having a mental diagnosis is not a pass for criminal activity or behavior, if shes not responsible for her actions as a matter of disease or mental defect she can raise that defense at trial in Türkiye at trial.”
The point is @PsyGuy is that her illness not being used as an “excuse” not to be tried or detained. She could have been detained in the UK, but would have been less of a suicide risk because of family support, no solitary confinement and English speaking psychiatric care. Currently prisoners cannot complete prison sentences in their home country until the end of the criminal proceedings, so that was not an option, either.
She will not be convicted in absentia. She will just become a fugitive.
Who knows if Türkiye will renew a red notice or drop the proceedings due to time limits. Coming up to seven years now?
She is not a fugitive in the UK.
Her local community and the staff she worked for believe in her innocence. You are not informed enough to say just her family are standing by her.
The case is BS. I think you are the one person who believes otherwise, other than the claimants. The evidence. Not compelling g. Flawed. A country too scared of back lash and looking weak to turn a lens on what may really have been happening?
Conjecture often becomes fact.
UK Teacher Discharged from Turkish Extradition
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Intl.Teach
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@Intl.Teach
The point is that Miss Pedos mental illness is very much being used as an excuse. Had she committed her offenses in the UK she would most surely be detained and held and being depressed would not be a cause to release her without significant bail conditions. Your presumption is that she is innocent ergo any suffering prior to her inevitable exoneration is unreasonable, but you dont know shes innocent, she may very well have done everything shes accused of and your position to the contrary is just a belief. Your presumption is thus erroneous, and based on a premise you havent and cant prove.
She could be tried and convicted in absentia, Türkiye has done it before.
My magic eight ball isnt any worse (or better) than your crystal ball. There isnt a limit to how long trial proceedings can be continued. Miss Pedo is already a fugitive. Shes not a convict yet, but shes most certainly a fugitive, theres both a current and valid Turkish warrant for her arrest and a red notice for her detention. Further, upon her conviction (in absentia included) her discharge from extradition can be re-examined by the UK Courts.
Miss Pedo is a fugitive EVERYWHERE else but the UK.
Im sufficiently informed of the generalities and specifics to form my own opinion, rather than blindly defer to the bias of Miss Pedos friends and family.
So what, my own counsel will I keep on what I believe, I need not defer to your popularity contest. More than I, find the evidence compelling, the prosecution as only one example.
Faith likewise becomes fact when the the only necessary and sufficient requirement is belief.
The point is that Miss Pedos mental illness is very much being used as an excuse. Had she committed her offenses in the UK she would most surely be detained and held and being depressed would not be a cause to release her without significant bail conditions. Your presumption is that she is innocent ergo any suffering prior to her inevitable exoneration is unreasonable, but you dont know shes innocent, she may very well have done everything shes accused of and your position to the contrary is just a belief. Your presumption is thus erroneous, and based on a premise you havent and cant prove.
She could be tried and convicted in absentia, Türkiye has done it before.
My magic eight ball isnt any worse (or better) than your crystal ball. There isnt a limit to how long trial proceedings can be continued. Miss Pedo is already a fugitive. Shes not a convict yet, but shes most certainly a fugitive, theres both a current and valid Turkish warrant for her arrest and a red notice for her detention. Further, upon her conviction (in absentia included) her discharge from extradition can be re-examined by the UK Courts.
Miss Pedo is a fugitive EVERYWHERE else but the UK.
Im sufficiently informed of the generalities and specifics to form my own opinion, rather than blindly defer to the bias of Miss Pedos friends and family.
So what, my own counsel will I keep on what I believe, I need not defer to your popularity contest. More than I, find the evidence compelling, the prosecution as only one example.
Faith likewise becomes fact when the the only necessary and sufficient requirement is belief.
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Re: UK Teacher Discharged from Turkish Extradition
“The evidence compelling”.
You clearly have not been in the Turkish or UK courts to form any opinion on the evidence. Further evidence, witnesses and reports have been submitted in both countries. Eminent legal professionals do not think Richardson would be convicted. Also. She was never bailed in Türkiye due to lack of evidence? No new evidence has ever been produced by the claimants?
My ‘opinion’ is based on research and facts. I do not hold a crystal ball. However, I have heard and read all public court documents and spoken to individuals who have been in. Court.
NellyPB and myself speak of support lacking from one specific area. Support that Neil Bantelman very publicly received and did no harm to anybody’s reputation.
Mental Health. Not an excuse. She DID have strict bail conditions and a bond in the UK and the prosecution called for her to be detained. She could have faced further restrictions but has not. Where is the avoidance? The Turkish court actually knew of her UK address as it had been supplied on numerous occasion's. She still had to be arrested rather than allowed to surrender at Westminster.
As yet, the court in Türkiye has not recognised her arrest and extradition case.
Crystal ball. Experience has shown and two eminent Turkish experts made a detailed and informed prediction that Richardson’s case would probably take a further three years to be tried.
@PsyGuy are you an eminent legal professional? Have you read court papers? Have you been or know of anybody who attended court hearings?
Go do Christmas holidays or whatever grinch or Scrooge type things you do when you are out for the holidays.
You clearly have not been in the Turkish or UK courts to form any opinion on the evidence. Further evidence, witnesses and reports have been submitted in both countries. Eminent legal professionals do not think Richardson would be convicted. Also. She was never bailed in Türkiye due to lack of evidence? No new evidence has ever been produced by the claimants?
My ‘opinion’ is based on research and facts. I do not hold a crystal ball. However, I have heard and read all public court documents and spoken to individuals who have been in. Court.
NellyPB and myself speak of support lacking from one specific area. Support that Neil Bantelman very publicly received and did no harm to anybody’s reputation.
Mental Health. Not an excuse. She DID have strict bail conditions and a bond in the UK and the prosecution called for her to be detained. She could have faced further restrictions but has not. Where is the avoidance? The Turkish court actually knew of her UK address as it had been supplied on numerous occasion's. She still had to be arrested rather than allowed to surrender at Westminster.
As yet, the court in Türkiye has not recognised her arrest and extradition case.
Crystal ball. Experience has shown and two eminent Turkish experts made a detailed and informed prediction that Richardson’s case would probably take a further three years to be tried.
@PsyGuy are you an eminent legal professional? Have you read court papers? Have you been or know of anybody who attended court hearings?
Go do Christmas holidays or whatever grinch or Scrooge type things you do when you are out for the holidays.
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@Intl.Teach
Yes, I find the evidence against Miss Pedo compelling.
I post only from experience and reliable and trusted sources. I have been to Türkiye and the UK. The UK Courts have no bearing or jurisdiction in the case. Their ONLY relevance in the case was an extradition hearing where it was denied. Again, extradition is not exoneration.
Thats just something our "Eminent legal professionals" think. They are certainly entitled to their opinion, but its just that an opinion. They arent the presiding judicial officer and adjudicator in the case.
A Turkish arrest warrant was issued for her arrest by the Turkish authorities, a further red notice was issued for her detention anywhere she may be found and to be detained. Its still an active warrant and notice. Miss Pedo has not surrendered herself to Turkish authorities in compliance of the warrant.
My opinion is likewise based on research and my interpretation of observations, just as yours is. Your facts arent facts they are disputed claims. They are no more credible or valid than mine.
Miss Pedo has no right, nor entitlement, nor privilege to support from anyone. Shes a fugitive from justice with a trail of victims in her past, just like Jeffrey Epstein.
Mental health is absolutely being used as an excuse. Miss Pedo is a child abuser, that her crimes make her sad, they are the cause of her alleged crimes, her depression is a result of her criminal actions.
The evidence is in Türkiye. Thats were Miss Pedos victim is.
Of course they knew of her location and address, thats why they applied for her extradition in the UK Courts.
Why would Türkiye recognize her extradition, shes a wanted fugitive in Türkiye. She committed her crimes in Türkiye, not in the UK. Why hasnt INTERPOL rescinded the red notice? The UK should have respected the request for extradition as it came from an EU partner state. We could play your Trumpian whatifs all day. Miss Pedo is a wanted fugitive everywhere but the UK, this is what you refer to as a "fact".
Your "eminent Turkish experts" are making a guess, they have no data for their prediction other than its something they think. They may as well have read it on a fortune cookie.
No, Yes, and Yes.
Happy Christmas.
Yes, I find the evidence against Miss Pedo compelling.
I post only from experience and reliable and trusted sources. I have been to Türkiye and the UK. The UK Courts have no bearing or jurisdiction in the case. Their ONLY relevance in the case was an extradition hearing where it was denied. Again, extradition is not exoneration.
Thats just something our "Eminent legal professionals" think. They are certainly entitled to their opinion, but its just that an opinion. They arent the presiding judicial officer and adjudicator in the case.
A Turkish arrest warrant was issued for her arrest by the Turkish authorities, a further red notice was issued for her detention anywhere she may be found and to be detained. Its still an active warrant and notice. Miss Pedo has not surrendered herself to Turkish authorities in compliance of the warrant.
My opinion is likewise based on research and my interpretation of observations, just as yours is. Your facts arent facts they are disputed claims. They are no more credible or valid than mine.
Miss Pedo has no right, nor entitlement, nor privilege to support from anyone. Shes a fugitive from justice with a trail of victims in her past, just like Jeffrey Epstein.
Mental health is absolutely being used as an excuse. Miss Pedo is a child abuser, that her crimes make her sad, they are the cause of her alleged crimes, her depression is a result of her criminal actions.
The evidence is in Türkiye. Thats were Miss Pedos victim is.
Of course they knew of her location and address, thats why they applied for her extradition in the UK Courts.
Why would Türkiye recognize her extradition, shes a wanted fugitive in Türkiye. She committed her crimes in Türkiye, not in the UK. Why hasnt INTERPOL rescinded the red notice? The UK should have respected the request for extradition as it came from an EU partner state. We could play your Trumpian whatifs all day. Miss Pedo is a wanted fugitive everywhere but the UK, this is what you refer to as a "fact".
Your "eminent Turkish experts" are making a guess, they have no data for their prediction other than its something they think. They may as well have read it on a fortune cookie.
No, Yes, and Yes.
Happy Christmas.
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Re: UK Teacher Discharged from Turkish Extradition
“In Turkish law, a fugitive (kaçak) is defined as a person who deliberately hides within Turkey or in a foreign country to avoid investigation or prosecution, making it impossible for a public prosecutor or court to reach them.
The status of "fugitive" is a specific legal classification used in criminal procedure, regulated under Article 248 of the Turkish Criminal Procedure Code. “
There are FACTS from court minutes and defendant petitions of how hard they fought to be part of the court proceedings/investigation (through video link, written testament and mutual legal agreement investigations.) I am not repeating my insistence that law enforcement knew of her address or mental illness.
The rest is regressive repetition by yourself @psyguy.
Ho ho ho. That’s not me being festive btw it’s just in response to your ridiculous comparisons and lack of FACTs.
Roll on a judgement in Europe.
https://rednoticemonitor.com/how-turkiy ... ce-system/
The status of "fugitive" is a specific legal classification used in criminal procedure, regulated under Article 248 of the Turkish Criminal Procedure Code. “
There are FACTS from court minutes and defendant petitions of how hard they fought to be part of the court proceedings/investigation (through video link, written testament and mutual legal agreement investigations.) I am not repeating my insistence that law enforcement knew of her address or mental illness.
The rest is regressive repetition by yourself @psyguy.
Ho ho ho. That’s not me being festive btw it’s just in response to your ridiculous comparisons and lack of FACTs.
Roll on a judgement in Europe.
https://rednoticemonitor.com/how-turkiy ... ce-system/
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No, its not. In the Turkish Criminal Procedure Code its Article 247 that contains the definition of a fugitive:
"Article 247 – (1) An individual who hides himself within the country in order to invalidate a pending prosecution against him, or IS [emphasis added] in a foreign country and for this reason the court cannot reach him, shall be called fugitive."
You can find it here on p. 119
https://www.unodc.org/cld/uploads/res/d ... e_Code.pdf
Thats exactly what Miss Pedo is, she IS IN a foreign country and the Court can not reach her. Turkish Law is very specific in its definition and words matter. Shes a fugitive (EVERYWHERE except the UK), theres a valid and lawful active Turkish warrant for her arrest and a red notice for her detention as a fugitive of justice.
The FACT is the Court does not have to accommodate Miss Pedo, the Court proceedings are conducted according to Turkish criminal procedures, not according to how Miss Pedo wants the proceedings conducted.
Hopefully she will be tried in abstention, found guilty and then thrown into a cell to wallow in her depression caused by her own criminal behavior, such that her child victims, who were entrusted to her, and which she abused, can have justice.
Only data matters.The entirety of your repetitive ravings being nothing more than the sycophancy of a child pedo traitor and a member of the Epstein alliance.
A judgement of nothing but some lawyers with a website.
No, its not. In the Turkish Criminal Procedure Code its Article 247 that contains the definition of a fugitive:
"Article 247 – (1) An individual who hides himself within the country in order to invalidate a pending prosecution against him, or IS [emphasis added] in a foreign country and for this reason the court cannot reach him, shall be called fugitive."
You can find it here on p. 119
https://www.unodc.org/cld/uploads/res/d ... e_Code.pdf
Thats exactly what Miss Pedo is, she IS IN a foreign country and the Court can not reach her. Turkish Law is very specific in its definition and words matter. Shes a fugitive (EVERYWHERE except the UK), theres a valid and lawful active Turkish warrant for her arrest and a red notice for her detention as a fugitive of justice.
The FACT is the Court does not have to accommodate Miss Pedo, the Court proceedings are conducted according to Turkish criminal procedures, not according to how Miss Pedo wants the proceedings conducted.
Hopefully she will be tried in abstention, found guilty and then thrown into a cell to wallow in her depression caused by her own criminal behavior, such that her child victims, who were entrusted to her, and which she abused, can have justice.
Only data matters.The entirety of your repetitive ravings being nothing more than the sycophancy of a child pedo traitor and a member of the Epstein alliance.
A judgement of nothing but some lawyers with a website.
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Re: UK Teacher Discharged from Turkish Extradition
Pathetic opinion. One alleged victim. Enough evidence to clear her.
Wait for the European court.
Wait for the European court.