Yes I am aware that the calculus would probably go to the senior IT. However, I would just be screwed if I had to teach calculus at present. I am decently proficient in Algebra, Geometry, etc. You basically have to know the basics for those even for the middle school licensing test that I took last year. I have never even taking a calculus class in school. I am not gifted numbers wise or mathematically. I should have been studying this past year while I was in Korea doing nothing.

Now now I am trying to figure out the best course of action.

I am only in the US for another month or so. At the moment I and finishing up the last part of my TeacherReady program.

I could probably add 1 or 2 certifications before I leave. I am thinking to add Elementary Ed. and one of either Social Studies or Computer Science. Elem. Ed will only take 1 or 2 weeks of study. Not sure how long the other ones would take as I would basically be starting from scratch. Tests are not cheap (200$) so I can't not afford to waste money and not pass on first attempt.

If I were to add one of SS or CS, which one would you recommend?

Then after I return to Korea in January bust my tail studying for the Maths 9-12 exam to take when I return to the US.

Also, while in Korea apply to IS for Fall 16' for jobs I am currently or will be qualified for i.e. middle grades math and elementary. If I get one of SS or CS then those as well.

If I get a job for Fall 16 great. If not, no biggie. I will use some vacation time to return to the USA next November and take the High School Math exam. Pass and start applying for jobs for the Fall 17. Then when contract finishes shortly after I return from the states go relax in Thailand, Philippines, or Vietnam for 6 months until Fall 17.

Oh, if you are married with kids, go on to ME.

If you are a single male Brazil no question.

Its not like you wouldn't be able to save any money there. Your social and dating life would be 1,000 times better in Brazil.

Yea that probably is not a good idea. I think I will just add elementary and maybe SS to my middle school math. then take what ever I can get this winter to fall.

Wish I would have applied myself in math while I was in school or atleast been studying it this past year. Not being able to add the 9-12 is causing me some stress. lol

@Psy

You are right one could pass the exam missing all calculus questions. However, at present it would be a terrible idea to risk having to teach something like that out of knowledge / expertise. Maybe after a year of studying lol. Still need to refresh completely on Algebra lol.

Is ICT the sam thing as "Information Technology" in Fla? http://www.fl.nesinc.com/tests.asp

I actually could probably add that before I leave the US.

PsyGuy wrote:
> @MedellinHeel
>
> Your next task should be adding secondary Maths (6-12), you will be
> seriously challenged with only a lower secondary credential. I would also
> begin considering adding a complimentary area to maths either science or
> ICT. Many smaller ISs need an IT to wear two hats or teach multiple cross
> curricular subjects.
>
> It is not advised to submit cold resumes they are a waste of time. Apply
> for current posted vacancies you are qualified for.

Not sure I can adequately teach Calculus. I was never really a math person in school. I mean I made B's without really applying myself. Just never pushed myself or was interested in taking any high advanced level math.

Which would you recommend out of SS or ICT? Could just do both and throw in a PE as well. But now way I could do that this first go around as Ill be out of the country soon. Maybe if I failed to get anything for Fall16 then maybe could throw some stuff on for Fall 17

marieh wrote:
> I agree with MedellinHeel's assessment of the TeacherReady program. I
> graduated a year ago and received several job offers before I even
> finished. The cost was reasonable and I was able to teach during the
> duration, instead of having to take time off to do formal student teaching
> through a university. The program itself took 9 months to complete, but it
> took a year to get my license due to F processing times.
>
> You do have to go back to the US to take the exams, but these can be
> completed at your own pace. I just took them while I was at home for the
> summer.

What avenues did you use to get those job offers?

@Psy

I have passed all the Florida tests. Only thing left to do is the final week of student teaching. My certification area is middle school math.

I won't be able to attend a fair.

I guess I will just spam the all the job databases & recruiting boards with my CV. Also maybe even cold email schools my CV. Maybe try some Facebook groups as well.

Wont be the end of the world if I do not get a position for Fall 16. Ill get to chill in Vietnam or Thailand for half the year relaxing lol.

PsyGuy wrote:
> @MedellinHeel
>
> Same as first tier ISs, recruiters, job boards, etc. Depending on the model
> you subscribe too the second tier isnt anything to be ashamed about. I
> subscribe to the educator/teacher model. The 1st tier is the top 5%, the
> 2nd tier is the top 75% (80%)-95%, third tier is below that. It leaves a
> VERY large 3rd tier.
>
> Many second tier ISs in a region are IB ISs that bridge 3rd tier too 1st
> tier ISs.

What would be your plan of attack and expectations for getting a job if you where in my shoes?

- Completing my final assignment this month with TeacherReady but it takes 4-5 months to actually be sent your license if I recall (newb teacher)
- Going to back to Korea in 2-3 months (January) (hoping to leave come July/August) (want to pay off my credit card in that span which i can easily do given 4+ months)
- Want to get a job in Asia for Fall 16'

elevate88 wrote:
> @psyguy
>
> Yes, you read my mind!
> My objective is to teach at an overseas AS outside of the US which requires
> US teacher certification.
> I appreciate all of the potential routes which you have mentioned and it is
> very helpful to see the easier routes written down.
>
> As you have suggested, I attempted to apply for a standard license through
> Hawaii but am facing issue with the SSN requirement.
> Is there any way around this?

You can obtain a SSN if you are taking US course work I believe. Need to check that though

PsyGuy wrote:
> @MedellinHeel
>
> No experience no formal professional educator training. Thats a lot of
> white space, you will likely find a lot of frustration and disappointment.
>
> ISs are not really structured to mentor an intern class IT.

I am already expecting to take what ever i can get. i.e. Low expectations. I doubt I am gonna be disappointed.

Nomads wrote:
> PsyGuy and Senator,
>
> As an administrator who attends five to seven fairs a year, including
> Bangkok, I am personally insulted by your statements about why
> administrators want the fairs to continue.
>
> As an administrator, I leave my family for weeks at a time because I want
> to meet the teachers I am hiring face to face as I believe I can better
> evaluate candidates in person rather than by Skype. My family and I make
> the sacrifice because it is the most important thing I do for my school.
>
> I encourage any new forum readers to carefully evaluate the merit of any
> comments from these two.

One can be fairly certain there are recruiters out there that use these fairs for mini vacations and various activities if you know what I mean. Alternative motives per say.

bendetwile2 wrote:

> @medellinHeel
>
> I obtained this job by signing up for Search and sending out my CV to a
> load of schools all over the world knowing I could not be too picky with
> location for my first international post. Marieh is completely right when
> talking about Pakistan. The package here is crazy good! Safety is not a
> concern where I am posted.....that cannot be said everywhere in Pakistan.
> My advice would just be learn as much as you can from researching this
> forum and going to a job fair and doing loads of Skype interviews to
> practice your interview skills. Good luck! TeacherReady was a huge
> success for me.
>
> Ben

I assume your CV was pretty bare correct? How big of a problem was that? How many offers did you get?

I am not looking forward to having a CV with no experience and a ATC program. lol

amaya284 wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm considering the Teacher Ready Program and wonder if you did end up
> going through the program? If so what was your experience like? What were
> the pros and cons? How long did it take you get licensed?

I am the OP. I lost my login / email info for my original username.

I highly recommend TeacherReady.

Pros - easy, cheap, convenient
Cons - not really sure if there is any cons if we are speaking from solely a alternative certification program.

Due to my own procrastination, difficulties of finding a school and mentor close to where I lived in Korea, complications with previous schools (mentor leaving, bad timing i.e. end of year testing, etc etc) I have drug my license out very long. Just now back in the US and gonna be finishing my final 5 days student teaching this month or next. Altogether, it will have taken me 3 years. The program itself is only 9 months if I remember correct so long as you experience no complications and do not procrastinate.

How do most 2nd tier schools advertise or find teachers (or teachers find them)?