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				What Is A Good Salary?
				Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:18 pm
				by Laptop
				I am a teacher with 20 years teaching experience yet I am new to the International School scene.  
I have just come back from a job fair and have been offered a teaching position in the Middle East for $30,000 no taxes, plus free housing. free school transport.  Is this a good salary?  I have no idea.  Should I be grateful or should I throw the contract back at the Director? 
I need to make a decision soon.
			 
			
					
				What is a good salary?
				Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:30 pm
				by Ottoman
				$30,000 with no tax, no housing expenses, and no transport to worry about, sounds fair.  You would get a better salary in Saudi Arabia or in some of the SE Asian schools, but it does not mean that you will have a better teaching experience.  Money doesn't really mean much if you are miserable at the school, but on balance I would say that $30k with fringe benefits is okay.  
Don't forget to ask for the health insurance and the yearly flights home?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:51 am
				by solarhamster
				The 30.000 dollar salary could not be enough if the school is in Dubai, as the cost of living has risen something like 140% over the past 5 years. I had an offer there, but turned them down once I figured I wouln't be saving much due to the costs.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:08 am
				by JISAlum
				[quote="solarhamster"].....as the cost of living has risen something like 140% over the past 5 years. I had an offer there, but turned them down once I figured I wouln't be saving much due to the costs.[/quote]
The cost of living can have a big influence. My wife and I lived in Singapore and while housing was provided, that was counted as a benefit towards our US taxes. We ended up no having to owe any US taxes as we paid Singapore taxes. 
A couple of good resources for cost of living are at:
http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/steccpi.html#compint
I'm sure there are other/better resources as well.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: What Is A Good Salary?
				Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:48 pm
				by neveah
				[quote="Laptop"]I am a teacher with 20 years teaching experience yet I am new to the International School scene.  
I have just come back from a job fair and have been offered a teaching position in the Middle East for $30,000 no taxes, plus free housing. free school transport.  Is this a good salary?  I have no idea.  Should I be grateful or should I throw the contract back at the Director? 
I need to make a decision soon.[/quote]
I'm sorry if my opinion is too late. I want to teach overseas too. I am also a newbie. I have been doing as much research as I possibly can. 
If you have 20 years of teaching experience, why are they only paying you $30,000? I know that you are a newbie, but from what I've heard, if you have a lot of experience/education/certification, that automatically raises your salary.
What about health insurance? Do you get free health care? They should offer you that as well.
			 
			
					
				Re: What Is A Good Salary?
				Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:38 pm
				by JISAlum
				[quote="neveah"]I know that you are a newbie, but from what I've heard, if you have a lot of experience/education/certification, that automatically raises your salary.[/quote]
Schools can pay what they want to. Here is salary info from International School Ho Chi Minh City taken off TIE:
"Salary:
$24,490 - $38,265. Salary is based on a 13 point scale with placement on step 1 after 2 years experience and initial contract placement no higher than step 10 i.e. $34,667. "
Even if you have 20 years experience, they'll only give you step 10 (or whatever). Some schools have a 'ceiling' at what they'll bring you in as. Changing jobs in the international circuit entails taking a serious pay cut in many cases.
			 
			
					
				Salary or savings...
				Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:02 am
				by Mike
				It is all about the savings, not the salary.
Are you paid in $$'s or Euro's.  What are the costs of living?  What about taxes??  Will you be a local or foriegn hire?  Transport?  Lifestyle?
Lets hope with all these new schools salaries and benifits go up in the next few years.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:12 pm
				by miski
				A late response but- Kuwait teachers range from ( + free accom + flight, tax free ) $27,000 per year starting with low qualifications to $ 37,000   at a good point in the scale.
At 20 years experience you should be at the top of the scale. I would be asking for about $33,000 if I was you.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:08 am
				by GHK
				Frankly the question you need to ask yourself is how much you can put in the bank and whether you are prepared to work for that amount. I also have about the same amount of experience and have accepted a position for less than that for the joy of going to my next school/country. Yet, In my last position, I was putting more money in the bank than the salary you've been offered. 
I would be a lot more interested in finding out about the working conditions and the reputation of the school , the students and the colleagues you'll have and what it's like living in the country you chose than the $ because that's what will make the difference between being happy or miserable.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:23 pm
				by missy
				GHK=
You could not have said that better !!
 My husband and I  used to just look at the money and benefits when deciding where to work BUT with experience and age (the say age makes one wiser ??? LOL ) we have decided that even if we get paid a bit less, we prefer to work
in a healthy environment , in a country we will truly enjoy
VERSUS  a toxic environment !!!
"Sometimes money really ain't what it's all about !!!"