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esther434
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Salary Ranges?

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Could someone tell me where I could find Information on teaching salary ranges for Tier 1 and 2 schools? I am particularly interested in India. Thank you.
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You might get some vague ranges here from someone but generally you will need to pay something for better info. The paid reviews have a salary range on the review form that might be helpful (and relatively cheap to view). Your best bet for generally accurate info. (or at least the best you can get in one location) is to join Search Associates to have access to their database. It also the most expensive and time-consuming option ($300 and some hours completing their application).

You can also google international school and India and go right to their websites. Some schools may have a published salary scale. Generally the better schools in that region will pay around the same/better than many larger school districts in the US, +housing or a housing allowance and other benefits (possibly utilities, access to car/driver etc) that make it financially worthwhile for western trained teachers to go there.
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There really arent any. There are two types of packages and comp, those that are open, meaning that the table is fixed, published and generally transparent and those that are closed, meaning they arent published, and their is a greater deal of flexibility and variation in what an IS can/will offer. Rarely is a recruiter disciplined for saving an IS coin. The ISs that tend to publish their comp and package are the elite ISs in a given region, for them its a recruiting tactic, they know they offer the best package and scale, so advertising it only helps them.

The premium agencies (SA and ISS) offer the most consistent data, but its not a full scale. You will salary quotes for a BA+4 years experience and one for an MA+8 years experience. These are self reported from the IS and their is no assurance that they are current or valid. You can have exactly one of those salary descriptors (a BA and 4 years) and not get offered the quoted salary or anywhere near it. At best you can figure out a range for the region your in and whether the IS you are negotiating with is low, middle, or high on that range.

You can ask on the forum, but again a recruiter with a closed comp/package likely has considerable discretion in what they can/will offer. A primary IT early in the season is likely going to be offered strict scale and band, where an IT in maths/science late in the season is likely to get a few more steps on the scale for what might be otherwise unrelated experience, achievements, etc.. if it will make the deal.
Lower tier ISs may not even have a scale, the recruiter/leadership gets a staffing budget and its theres to do with how they best see fit, their performance is to a considerable extent how 'lean' they can operate the IS. You could have ITs with similar experience but something such as gender, age, appearance, ethnicity, race, etc.. can result in significant differences in comp. Go into an IS that hires Westerners and Filipinos and you will often find significant disparity between the comp and packages of the two.
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In terms of salary, the rule is that there are no rules. I have been offered IS positions with published salary scales on Search and what I was offered in no way related to what was posted on Search. Let's face it though, most IS pay way too little. You are not doing this for the money. You are doing this for the experience and the schools know it so they get away with financial robbery of you and other experience-enthusiasts. Remember former poster @marina? She gave up international teaching all together because she found a domestic school to pay her real money. It's all about trade-offs.
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@reisgio

One of our major contributors @Senator did the same. Generally, you have better opportunities for comp in your HOR than you do in IE.
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We make far more here than in our HOR. Where are people working that pays so little (or where are the HOR schools that pay so well)?
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@Thames Pirate

This topic has been discussed previously. You can get 6 figures in the US, and in AUS/CAN at the higher levels of the comp scale you can find 6 figures with TLR and just below 6 figures without. Many DTs would give up tenure, and seniority leaving DE for IE. Most prominently they would be taking a major cut in comp due to scale caps.
Even the UK has high salaries when you consider the comp at Eaton and the like.
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PsyGuy - that's true in the private schools, but not so much in state schools. Most authorities in the UK operate some kind of scale - in Scotland, it's negotiated centrally so that a teacher at the same stage in Edinburgh or Stornoway gets paid exactly the same. As a result, I'd say that most UK teachers moving abroad to a non-promoted post will almost always find they are paid at least the same as they were at home, if not more.

esther434 - what you have to remember is that the big difference comes in how much you can save, particularly with a lower cost of living. For example, in India you might find that the salary seems low in cash terms compared to home, but you have to remember that you're probably not going to have housing costs or transportation to / from work to think about, food may cost less, and that generally you will feel better off (and still be able to send money home at the end of the month.)
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@expatscot

Im familiar with the main, upper, leadership and UQ pay scales in the UK, those were mostly dissolved, and now the DfE only prescribes minimum and maximum. Aside, the bulk of IE ISs are private/independent ISs not regulated/public DSs.
This really depends on region and location, go to LSCA and your very likely to make much less than you would in the UK, of course you can go to the ME and likely make a lot more.
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Thames Pirate wrote:
> We make far more here than in our HOR. Where are people working that pays
> so little (or where are the HOR schools that pay so well)?
Canada pays well, has good pension plans and benefits; strong unions. In America, wages go from dismal to good depending on the State. UK is low.
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AUS can also pay well, with a decade or two and TLR approaching 6 figures
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