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Re: Tuition Paid Out of Pocket

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:58 am
by Coimbra
> and 83% states that they will accept two children for a couple only one of whom
> teaches, which is more than I expected.

Yep, that lines up with what I've heard from a colleague (with 2 kids + trailing spouse) who's planning to move on after this year and made a list of all schools she wants to work at and then checked if they'll provide two waivers for her kiddos. She found that 80 percent of the schools on her list does.

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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:50 pm
by PsyGuy
@Heliotrope

We disagree.

Its the lower tier ISs that are more likely to make extra waivers/places available as they often have capacity to spare. Its the upper tier ISs that are at capacity that are reducing waivers/places. Its closer to half (50% that will provide more than one waiver/place. SAs profiles mean nothing.

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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:23 am
by Coimbra
My colleague who did her research had -almost- all of tier 1 schools on her list and didn't use search associates profiles and arrived at 80 percent. So if @helio arrived at 83 percent then those profiles do mean something.

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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:51 am
by PsyGuy
@Coimbra

No it doesnt. Your colleague didnt receive contracts or offers from all those ISs. Your colleague merely substituted one source of self-report for another source of self-report.
The proportion isnt zero but its closer to 50% than 80%. Theres no rational benefit for an IS to not claim they offer a 1:1 or 1:2 waiver/place when there may be some scenario that an IS would do that even if they would in a real instance only offer one or one with a further discount or would instead appoint an IT without dependents.Its the same phenomenon of social desirability of ISs claiming to value diversity, appointing the best IT regardless of race or ethnicity and yet IE is so heterogeneously white. Theres no benefit for the IS or leadership to cast them selves in a 'family unfriendly' light, especially when there exists some scenario where the IS would make such a concession despite their predilection not to.

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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:16 am
by Coimbra
When you do or do not receive an offer you never know what role your dependents played in that decision so that remark of yours has little relevance.
All you can do is look at how many teachers with two dependent kiddos they hired the most recent recruitment rounds.
So through her extensive network she asked actual teachers at those schools how often the schools give those two spots based on their experience at their school. She asked about likely scenarios and not outliers. That is how she arrived at her number.

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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:07 am
by PsyGuy
@Coimbra

No, Its of great relevance, being dismissive doesnt change its relevance.
I only post from experience and from reliable and trusted sources, the proportion of ISs that offer 2 waivers/places is closer to 50% and not 80%.

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Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:38 am
by Heliotrope
Coimbra wrote:
> When you do or do not receive an offer you never know what role your
> dependents played in that decision so that remark of yours has little
> relevance.
> All you can do is look at how many teachers with two dependent kiddos they
> hired the most recent recruitment rounds.
> So through her extensive network she asked actual teachers at those schools
> how often the schools give those two spots based on their experience at
> their school. She asked about likely scenarios and not outliers. That is
> how she arrived at her number.

Agree

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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 3:44 pm
by PsyGuy
@Heliotrope

We disagree.