High pay package IS?

[funteacher]

Tangchao is right. Most Asian schools have seriously racist pay differentials for Chinese teachers. The only ones that don't are the very top schools, outside of China (in China even the top schools have the racist pay differentials). You're not getting into those international schools without MYP Moderator/DP Examiner levels of experience, or a lot of dumb luck. Europe/ME rarely hire Chinese teachers. You're better off staying in your current position.

[PsyGuy]

For 6 figure coin. Switzerland, the ME, company ISs (whether its oil or mining), elite tutoring.
ISs at the tier youd need for 6 figures would prefer a native speaker of mandarin or Cantonese. Your resume is too lite to command that type of coin, youre basically an entry class IT.
Getting a fee/tuition waiver at a 1:1 employee:child ratio is pretty standard.
USD$40K savings with your resume, a trailing spouse and a school aged child, my coins against you. Theres a chance just you know a stars and planets have to aligned type of chance. The average IT salary is only 32K. Youre best bet is moving quickly into leadership where more lucrative coin is more common.
IB isnt a requirement but IB fills a lot of the second tier and bridges the third to first tier of an ITs career.
I disagree with @Sid your housing allowance isnt going to pay your mortgage back in AUS, and your only staying in IE briefly.
You cant save what you dont make. OSE packages though do have substantial value and their contribution to your financial goals should not be considered lightly.

[sunflower1982711]

Thanks for replies. As everyone suggested, it is not the best option for us to go overseas currently... Maybe wait till my wife gets certified. She's Chinese and she's considering to do a Master of teaching (Early childhood & primary). A teaching couple two years later..

[PsyGuy]

@sunflower1982711

Not the best way to go. Your spouse has no experience but costs a Masters salary to fill a primary classroom, and that degree is resources and coin. Youd have better utility getting the Masters yourself in something like Ed.Ld transitioning to leadership (a Masters should always do more than get you in a classroom) then make your spouse a part of the deal, which isnt uncommon. Your spouse can take a couple exams and get a MA Provisional credential.

[brillo]

Late to the . but a lot of independent british schools (not IB, A level etc.) will pay a decent salary for a chinese teacher, certified or not. These will sometimes come with benefits e.g. housing, or extra pay if you as a couple are willing to be house parents.

[sunflower1982711]

I think she's going to do a Master of teaching (secondary) with Maths and Chinese as her two teaching areas.

[brillo]

Sounds good. Always need maths teachers!

[Illiane_Blues]

If she can teach Maths and Chinese, she would be an attractive candidate. Maths is always in demand, and schools always like it if you can teach a second subject. Some countries in Asia with a large Chinese speaking minority (or majority of course) they hire local teachers to teach Chinese but in other countries around the world they do not. And some schools might want to offer Chinese but are hesitant to hire a full-time Chinese teacher, so your wife would be an interesting option for them.

[sunflower1982711]

She's even thinking if she should start to apply for Australian citizenship? She's lived here for years as permanent resident, any difference in an overseas job market, with Chinese passport + Australian teaching credentials?

[Illiane_Blues]

sunflower1982711 wrote:
> She's even thinking if she should start to apply for Australian
> citizenship? She's lived here for years as permanent resident, any
> difference in an overseas job market, with Chinese passport + Australian
> teaching credentials?

Sadly, I think an Australian passport would get her more interviews.

[PsyGuy]

High level maths is in demand at upper secondary, Calc, Trig, Adv. Algebra, those are in demand. An IT who can dawdle through fractions, intro geometry, and pre-algebra, at lower secondary or upper primary, not nearly so much.
Mandarin isnt a very common FL in IE outside of China, and not because its not available, JP is more marketable than Mandarin, at least thir are kids that want to read manga who are interested in it, and the few Chinese parents in a western IS would have to suffice with an ASP or an outside tutor. If an IS were interested in Mandarin there isnt going to be the demand for an FTE and not even close so again it an IT that basically teaches something else and one course in Mandarin and an IS that wanted to do that would just hire a PT local to do so (it would end up being a .1 or .15 FTE position). Leadership isnt going to structure recruiting around one course. Your spouse would otherwise have their ASP figure out.

They should absolutely get their AUS citizenship, its going to have logistical benefits if nothing else to hiring and recruiting in meeting that checkbox of US/UK/AUS/CAN citizenship. The AUS credential is worth more than a Masters especially if it teaching Mandarin (Chinese), shes a native speaker, a Masters isnt going to make her a better native speaker. Further, the western meds/peds/asst approach isnt very conducive to the approach of teaching Mandarin as its done in China. The Masters isnt going to do anything for them that they cant do now. A Masters should always do more than just get you in a classroom.

[Heliotrope]

There are hundreds of ISs around the world that offer Mandarin Chinese, and plenty of those are outside Asia. Then there are schools that are are considering to offer it, although it will be hard to find those.

Go to the IBO website (https://ibo.org/programmes/find-an-ib-school/) and search for schools offering Mandarin Chinese there. As a keyword in your search, use 'Mandarin' or 'Chinese', but not both, or it will limit your results.
And that's just schools that offer the IB curriculum. Loads of other schools out there that also offer Chinese.
Of course they won't all have vacancies.

Registering with Search Associates might be a good way of finding the schools with vacancies, but there are many schools that are not on Search.

But to save your desired sum, both of you would need to land a job.

[PsyGuy]

@Heliotrope

Its better to look at exam candidates than ISs that have or are offering subjects. If we look at language acquisition in the DIP there were 3572 and in the MYP 140 exam candidates, thats a total of 3712 candidates globally. To get an estimate of FTE vacancies there may be, Im factoring the average class size at 20 students to obtain how many classes there are, which gives us 185.6 classes. Assuming that the minimum for a FTE position is 5 classes, thats a class that meets for one 55 minute period per day, 5 days per week (the number only gets smaller the more classes there are), gives us 37.12 fundable positions. Divide that by 10 as a factor for recruitable vacancies in a given year and thats 3-4 vacancies, thats it. It also assumes all those vacancies are OSH and not LH vacancies (in regions with a native Chinese speaking population) or PT vacancies.
It would be better based on the above data, to study literature at the Masters level, as just the number of Chinese literature candidates was higher at 4814, not counting the English literature candidates. l

[Heliotrope]

That's a lot of assumptions, and I don't agree with several of them. For example, at my last school the class size for these classes was 5, and at the school prior to that it was 6.
But anyway, what we know for sure is that there are hundreds of ISs that offer Mandarin Chinese, and they will all have one or more teachers teaching Mandarin Chinese, full-time or part-time. In countries with a large Chinese minority they might of course be local hires.
Just have a look around on the IBO website to see which locations/schools you like, and/or join Search to see where they have vacancies.

[PsyGuy]

@Heliotrope

We disagree.