PsyGuy wrote:
> I take your question.
You might have noticed that Gohmert didn't actually ask a question. I however did.
And you do realise what it actually means, right?
"M. Tia Johnson, a visiting law professor at Georgetown University Law Center and former assistant secretary for legislative affairs at the US Department of Homeland Security tells Quartz that this is a standard legal response.
“‘I take your question’ is used often when the witness doesn’t know the answer to the question,” she said. It’s distinct from a straight “no” because it indicates that the answer may well be knowable, just that this witness doesn’t know it.
Also, Mueller had a report, with sources, that is available to the public (with too many redactions, but still).
When do schools begin hiring?
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Illiane_Blues
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@PsyGuy wrote:
> @Heliotrope
>
> Providing tier ranking of ISs is not permitted on the public forum.
> I never claimed there is no official list of tiers.
PsyGuy, you claimed you saw Heliotrope's list so you must have a paid account.
Why not post your tier 1-list as a reply to his list there?
Or is it just a bluf that you've seen his list and that you have an official list yourself?
I recently joined the paid part of this site so look forward to seeing your list.
Heliotrope's list seems accurate. The GRC-list does have many tier 1 schools and almost all of the most desirable schools.
> @Heliotrope
>
> Providing tier ranking of ISs is not permitted on the public forum.
> I never claimed there is no official list of tiers.
PsyGuy, you claimed you saw Heliotrope's list so you must have a paid account.
Why not post your tier 1-list as a reply to his list there?
Or is it just a bluf that you've seen his list and that you have an official list yourself?
I recently joined the paid part of this site so look forward to seeing your list.
Heliotrope's list seems accurate. The GRC-list does have many tier 1 schools and almost all of the most desirable schools.
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Heliotrope
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Illiane_Blues wrote:
> PsyGuy, you claimed you saw Heliotrope's list so you must have a paid account.
> Why not post your tier 1-list as a reply to his list there?
Don't bother asking, as @PsyGuy will never post that list. Partly because of stubbornness, but mostly because there is no list, although I hope to be proven wrong on both counts.
> PsyGuy, you claimed you saw Heliotrope's list so you must have a paid account.
> Why not post your tier 1-list as a reply to his list there?
Don't bother asking, as @PsyGuy will never post that list. Partly because of stubbornness, but mostly because there is no list, although I hope to be proven wrong on both counts.
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Thames Pirate
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Re: When do schools begin hiring?
There is no master list. There is the one on the paid site, which is as close as one can come to such a thing, but even that is subjective and fluctuating. However, if one uses that list, then GRC looks pretty good.
That said, it seems like a bit of a "good old boys" thing. It's not for everyone.
That said, it seems like a bit of a "good old boys" thing. It's not for everyone.
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@Illiane_Blues
I never claimed to have an official list.
Its very simple though, my user name on the member forum is not related at all to my user name on the public forum and I have no interest in liking the two.
The list created by @Heliotrope isnt accurate.
I never claimed to have an official list.
Its very simple though, my user name on the member forum is not related at all to my user name on the public forum and I have no interest in liking the two.
The list created by @Heliotrope isnt accurate.
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Illiane_Blues
Re: Reply
PsyGuy wrote:
> @Illiane_Blues
>
> I never claimed to have an official list.
> Its very simple though, my user name on the member forum is not related at
> all to my user name on the public forum and I have no interest in liking
> the two.
>
> The list created by @Heliotrope isnt accurate.
You don't have it because there is no official list?
You said there is an actual top, so that implies some master list, doesn't it?
And you say there are formal, objective criteria for tier status. What are these then? I've never read or heard about them so I'm inclined to believe they don't exist.
> @Illiane_Blues
>
> I never claimed to have an official list.
> Its very simple though, my user name on the member forum is not related at
> all to my user name on the public forum and I have no interest in liking
> the two.
>
> The list created by @Heliotrope isnt accurate.
You don't have it because there is no official list?
You said there is an actual top, so that implies some master list, doesn't it?
And you say there are formal, objective criteria for tier status. What are these then? I've never read or heard about them so I'm inclined to believe they don't exist.
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Thames Pirate
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Re: When do schools begin hiring?
We all know tiers are subjective. There are some schools that in general suit most people--these are mostly considered Tier 1. Even these don't suit everyone. It gets fuzzier in the middle.
If PsyGuy IS on the paid forum, he also has a personality transplant.
If PsyGuy IS on the paid forum, he also has a personality transplant.
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Thames Pirate
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Re: When do schools begin hiring?
PsyGuy: "There's no list but certain schools are at the top of the list, and of course there is no official list but I am the keeper of the official criteria."
WTH?
WTH?
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Heliotrope
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PsyGuy wrote:
> I never claimed there was 'no' list.
Hmmm, I beg to differ:
"There is no master tier 1 list, and as such there is no publication date of any such list."
by PsyGuy » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:18 am
"There is no objective definition of Tier 1, Tier 2, or Tier 3, and as such there is no "master list" of who is in which list, and to that end even if there was no one would agree on it"
by PsyGuy » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:29 pm
"there simply are no "master lists" in IE"
by PsyGuy » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:12 pm
"there is no master list, their would be very, very, very little consensus in what tier banding a certain school is."
by PsyGuy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:12 pm
"The whole tier system is really very subjective, there isnt a "master list"."
by PsyGuy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:12 pm
"There isnt a master tier 1 list"
by PsyGuy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:16 am
I think it's fair to say that you've claimed there is no official list.
But then I do wonder what list you refer to when you say "Yes, there is a top".
The top of your own private unofficial list I assume?
PsyGuy wrote:
> I never claimed there were official criteria.
PsyGuy wrote:
> Ive published formal criteria several times in the past
Formal means 'officially sanctioned or recognized'. So you've never claimed there are officially sanctioned criteria, yet you've published them several times? I've read YOUR criteria, but what makes them formal? Who, other than you, sanctioned or recognized them? I assume they aren't formal at all, since you said:
"their would be very, very, very little consensus in what tier banding a certain school is."
by PsyGuy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:12 pm
"The whole tier system is really very subjective"
by PsyGuy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:12 pm
"There is no objective definition of Tier 1, Tier 2, or Tier 3"
by PsyGuy » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:29 pm
So let's agree that there are no formal but only personal criteria for tier 1, tier 2 and tier 3, and as a result that there's no official list of tier 1 (or 2 or 3) schools.
> I never claimed there was 'no' list.
Hmmm, I beg to differ:
"There is no master tier 1 list, and as such there is no publication date of any such list."
by PsyGuy » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:18 am
"There is no objective definition of Tier 1, Tier 2, or Tier 3, and as such there is no "master list" of who is in which list, and to that end even if there was no one would agree on it"
by PsyGuy » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:29 pm
"there simply are no "master lists" in IE"
by PsyGuy » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:12 pm
"there is no master list, their would be very, very, very little consensus in what tier banding a certain school is."
by PsyGuy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:12 pm
"The whole tier system is really very subjective, there isnt a "master list"."
by PsyGuy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:12 pm
"There isnt a master tier 1 list"
by PsyGuy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:16 am
I think it's fair to say that you've claimed there is no official list.
But then I do wonder what list you refer to when you say "Yes, there is a top".
The top of your own private unofficial list I assume?
PsyGuy wrote:
> I never claimed there were official criteria.
PsyGuy wrote:
> Ive published formal criteria several times in the past
Formal means 'officially sanctioned or recognized'. So you've never claimed there are officially sanctioned criteria, yet you've published them several times? I've read YOUR criteria, but what makes them formal? Who, other than you, sanctioned or recognized them? I assume they aren't formal at all, since you said:
"their would be very, very, very little consensus in what tier banding a certain school is."
by PsyGuy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:12 pm
"The whole tier system is really very subjective"
by PsyGuy » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:12 pm
"There is no objective definition of Tier 1, Tier 2, or Tier 3"
by PsyGuy » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:29 pm
So let's agree that there are no formal but only personal criteria for tier 1, tier 2 and tier 3, and as a result that there's no official list of tier 1 (or 2 or 3) schools.
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PsyGuy wrote:
> In none of those quotes do I use the term official.
You also say there is 'no list'. A master list is a list. Actually sounds quite official. Also, your 'there is no master list' reply is in all but two cases a response to someone claiming there is a list with some authority.
But once you turn to semantics, it's clear you're grasping at straws yet again.
> I need not subscribe to the @Heliotrope definition of formal.
It's not my definition, it's from the Oxford English Dictionary.
And anyway, first you say that you 'never claimed there were official criteria', and then you said that you've 'published formal criteria several times in the past'.
But let's see the glass as half full:
- We agree there is no official list
- We agree there are no official criteria for tiers
Right?
> In none of those quotes do I use the term official.
You also say there is 'no list'. A master list is a list. Actually sounds quite official. Also, your 'there is no master list' reply is in all but two cases a response to someone claiming there is a list with some authority.
But once you turn to semantics, it's clear you're grasping at straws yet again.
> I need not subscribe to the @Heliotrope definition of formal.
It's not my definition, it's from the Oxford English Dictionary.
And anyway, first you say that you 'never claimed there were official criteria', and then you said that you've 'published formal criteria several times in the past'.
But let's see the glass as half full:
- We agree there is no official list
- We agree there are no official criteria for tiers
Right?
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@Heliotrope
No, I wrote "I never claimed there was no list", there is a list.
Im not responsible for @Heliotropes interpretation of what text sounds like or what qualities @Heliotrope
projects on such text in regards to such texts authority.
Operational definitions need not limit themselves to those provided by the various lexicons including the OED.
Ive published formal criteria several times in the past and Ive never claimed there were official criteria.
No, I wrote "I never claimed there was no list", there is a list.
Im not responsible for @Heliotropes interpretation of what text sounds like or what qualities @Heliotrope
projects on such text in regards to such texts authority.
Operational definitions need not limit themselves to those provided by the various lexicons including the OED.
Ive published formal criteria several times in the past and Ive never claimed there were official criteria.
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PsyGuy wrote:
> No, I wrote "I never claimed there was no list", there is a list.
> Im not responsible for @Heliotropes interpretation of what text sounds like
> or what qualities @Heliotrope
> projects on such text in regards to such texts authority.
> Operational definitions need not limit themselves to those provided by the
> various lexicons including the OED.
> Ive published formal criteria several times in the past and Ive never
> claimed there were official criteria.
You're welcome to disagree with the dictionary about what something means, but it doesn't make for a very convincing argument.
Where is this list then, and how and by whom was it compiled?
What makes your criteria 'formal' criteria? They are your individual criteria, but copy-pasting them a bunch of times in different topics doesn't make them formal.
And can we at least agree there is no official list, and that there are no official criteria for tiers?
> No, I wrote "I never claimed there was no list", there is a list.
> Im not responsible for @Heliotropes interpretation of what text sounds like
> or what qualities @Heliotrope
> projects on such text in regards to such texts authority.
> Operational definitions need not limit themselves to those provided by the
> various lexicons including the OED.
> Ive published formal criteria several times in the past and Ive never
> claimed there were official criteria.
You're welcome to disagree with the dictionary about what something means, but it doesn't make for a very convincing argument.
Where is this list then, and how and by whom was it compiled?
What makes your criteria 'formal' criteria? They are your individual criteria, but copy-pasting them a bunch of times in different topics doesn't make them formal.
And can we at least agree there is no official list, and that there are no official criteria for tiers?