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Good salary in Western Europe

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Postby PsyGuy » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:22 am

@snowphantom

I would be very hesitant to treat anything in an ISs profile on SA as accurate.
Housing in the Hague will run you about €1900/mth
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Re: Discussion

Postby Heliotrope » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:00 am

PsyGuy wrote:
> Housing in the Hague will run you about €1900/mth

Troll alert!!


And so far I've found that the information of the SA profiles of most schools is fairly accurate (apart from savings potential, as an individual's lifestyle has such a big impact on that), but it's always smart to check up on the numbers of things that matter to you, since there are some schools where their profile info is way off.
Also, sometimes the info on the number of 'international' students can be off because some ISs will count nationals who also have a foreign passport as international, and some countries will just sell their passports to any rich parent that want their kid to attend an international school that requires a foreign passport for admittance.
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Postby PsyGuy » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:28 am

@Heliotrope

I generally find the SA IS profile data in its utility to be inaccurate and outdated.

and its €1900.
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Re: Reply

Postby Heliotrope » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:51 am

PsyGuy wrote:
> I generally find the SA IS profile data in its utility to be inaccurate and
> outdated.

Most information is not so far from the truth that you can't use it all to get an impression, but I've always checked the important numbers once I got closer to shortlisting a school.


> and its €1900.

Trollers gonna troll.
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Re: Good salary in Western Europe

Postby fine dude » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:19 am

I paid 1200 CHF for a one-bed flat in Zurich.
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Re: Good salary in Western Europe

Postby Illiane_Blues » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:00 pm

fine dude wrote:
> I paid 1200 CHF for a one-bed flat in Zurich.

Cost of living is crazy high in Switzerland. But salaries are high too.
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Re: Good salary in Western Europe

Postby fine dude » Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:20 pm

Not so high that allows considerable savings. Health insurance will be your biggest expense after housing. Even the economy is losing steam. #SwissBlues
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Re: Good salary in Western Europe

Postby Heliotrope » Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:18 pm

fine dude wrote:
> Not so high that allows considerable savings. Health insurance will be your
> biggest expense after housing. Even the economy is losing steam.
> #SwissBlues

Agree. But teaching couples without kids can still save well though at the higher paying schools, such as the ones in Zurich or Lausanne and a few others elsewhere in Switzerland.
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Re: Good salary in Western Europe

Postby secondplace » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:36 am

Teaching couples with no children can save very well in Switzerland. Yes, it's crazy expensive, but if you are able to live on one salary then you can bank the other.

And you're banking one whole Swiss salary, which will be decent.

The usual caveats about lifestyle etc. apply...
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Postby PsyGuy » Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:43 am

@Heliotrope

If one is satisfied with impressions, but Ive often described the data on ISs profiles as demonstrating a range within the region. Impressions arent accuracy though.
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Re: Reply

Postby Heliotrope » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:13 pm

PsyGuy wrote:
> @Heliotrope
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> If one is satisfied with impressions, but Ive often described the data on
> ISs profiles as demonstrating a range within the region. Impressions arent
> accuracy though.

That's exactly why, as I wrote, I always check the important numbers once I got closer to shortlisting a school.
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Inquiry

Postby PsyGuy » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:02 am

@Heliotrope

So you rely on bad data to get you to an intermediary point and then you look at good data?
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Re: Inquiry

Postby Heliotrope » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:58 pm

PsyGuy wrote:
> @Heliotrope
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> So you rely on bad data to get you to an intermediary point and then you
> look at good data?

No, most SA data isn't all bad, it's an indication. And it's only one of the sources I use to make a longlist.
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Postby PsyGuy » Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:45 pm

@Heliotrope

How bad does bad data have to be before its bad?

Granted, that while Ive seen ISs get their own name and address wrong, theres a proportion of their profile, such as identifying information thats accurate but has very little utility. Whereas the data such as salary (BA+4 and MA+8), savings potential, etc. tends to be outdated, or inaccurate more often than it isnt, and those are the data types that are of greater interest to ITs.
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Re: Reply

Postby Heliotrope » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:21 am

It has to be off by a significant margin, and in my experience, the important data provided by most schools is usually within that margin, so it helps to compare schools.
I disregard savings potential because there it exceeds that margin too often (in both directions), but there are plenty of sources to make an informed guess as to what the savings potential will be.
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