Everyone knows that teachers of some subjects are more in demand than other subjects (for jobs that is, not as a romantic partner).
For example, a Maths teacher usually has it easier finding a new job at a certain tier school than an English teacher, all other things (age, experience, background, etc.) being equal.
In your experience, what would be the ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in demand?
Ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in demand?
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Heliotrope
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::sigh::
Weve addressed this before, evolved into a long post, mostly about equestrian sports vacancies.
In order starting at the top, and most difficult:
1) Expat School Nurses: Most ISs just hire local, nurses make very good coin in the profession and those in DE are pursuing retirements/pensions, finding one that is dual licensed or able to get dual license, is usually just a stroke of good fortune. Add the requisite language skills and its basically a unicorn.
2) Bilingual Expat Professional Staff: This includes Program officers, such as admissions, finance, marketing, and communications. Most ISs just have to hire locally. This also includes expat ITs in multi language such as literature and language and primary, EC ITs that can do bilingual and immersion ((depending on the language and location).
3) Expat Specialized Performing and Fine Arts: At the top of the list in this category are fields like Equestrian Science and Riding. It took one IS in Japan 3 years to hire an IT for there program. These also include specialized ITs I have seen in the past for subjects such as glass blowing, Japanese dance, flower arranging, stained glass, lacquer painting.
4) Health Education Technology: These credentials are difficult to obtain often requiring a nursing license, or other such professional license.
5) Expat Aboriginal or Tribal Foreign Language: These are uncommon languages that professional educator credentials can only be obtained by a small number regulatory authorities, and are taught in only a small number of Uni. One IS in Japan spent over 4 years filling a native Hawaiian culture and language vacancy, and they did it by recruiting a student at the start of their Uni program. This also includes expat ITs in dual language such as literature and language and primary, EC ITs that can do bilingual and immersion (depending on the language and location).
6) Expat Specialized Vocational Education: Fields such as hospitality and tourism management are very hard to identify ITs with actual professional and teaching experience. Many ISs just have to settle for a business studies IT.
7) Expat Specialized Industrial Arts: Courses like textiles and metal craft, etc. These courses are difficult to identify ITs with actual professional and teaching experience.
8) Expat Specialized Design Technology/ICT: Courses like A/V and broadcast production are difficult to identify ITs with both the classical training (theater) and the technology skills that can produce things like a television show.
9) Field Science: Its a lot easier to find a classroom physics and chemistry IT then it is an IT who can do full time field science. Most ISs just hire a Biology or ESS IT from the classroom to the field. An IT really has to have a passion and dedication to maintain a living lab 365/24/7 in addition to actual experience organizing and managing such a program. Add specialized environments such as underwater, etc and this type of position can be very difficult to fill.
10) Upper Secondary Maths: Calculus, it really comes down to finding an IT who is comfortable with not only the skill but able to transfer knowledge.
Weve addressed this before, evolved into a long post, mostly about equestrian sports vacancies.
In order starting at the top, and most difficult:
1) Expat School Nurses: Most ISs just hire local, nurses make very good coin in the profession and those in DE are pursuing retirements/pensions, finding one that is dual licensed or able to get dual license, is usually just a stroke of good fortune. Add the requisite language skills and its basically a unicorn.
2) Bilingual Expat Professional Staff: This includes Program officers, such as admissions, finance, marketing, and communications. Most ISs just have to hire locally. This also includes expat ITs in multi language such as literature and language and primary, EC ITs that can do bilingual and immersion ((depending on the language and location).
3) Expat Specialized Performing and Fine Arts: At the top of the list in this category are fields like Equestrian Science and Riding. It took one IS in Japan 3 years to hire an IT for there program. These also include specialized ITs I have seen in the past for subjects such as glass blowing, Japanese dance, flower arranging, stained glass, lacquer painting.
4) Health Education Technology: These credentials are difficult to obtain often requiring a nursing license, or other such professional license.
5) Expat Aboriginal or Tribal Foreign Language: These are uncommon languages that professional educator credentials can only be obtained by a small number regulatory authorities, and are taught in only a small number of Uni. One IS in Japan spent over 4 years filling a native Hawaiian culture and language vacancy, and they did it by recruiting a student at the start of their Uni program. This also includes expat ITs in dual language such as literature and language and primary, EC ITs that can do bilingual and immersion (depending on the language and location).
6) Expat Specialized Vocational Education: Fields such as hospitality and tourism management are very hard to identify ITs with actual professional and teaching experience. Many ISs just have to settle for a business studies IT.
7) Expat Specialized Industrial Arts: Courses like textiles and metal craft, etc. These courses are difficult to identify ITs with actual professional and teaching experience.
8) Expat Specialized Design Technology/ICT: Courses like A/V and broadcast production are difficult to identify ITs with both the classical training (theater) and the technology skills that can produce things like a television show.
9) Field Science: Its a lot easier to find a classroom physics and chemistry IT then it is an IT who can do full time field science. Most ISs just hire a Biology or ESS IT from the classroom to the field. An IT really has to have a passion and dedication to maintain a living lab 365/24/7 in addition to actual experience organizing and managing such a program. Add specialized environments such as underwater, etc and this type of position can be very difficult to fill.
10) Upper Secondary Maths: Calculus, it really comes down to finding an IT who is comfortable with not only the skill but able to transfer knowledge.
Re: Ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in dem
Psyguy, now I might have got completely the wrong end of the stick here but I'm really not sure that the OP was looking for rankings of aboriginal language teachers or equestrian coaches.
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wrldtrvlr123
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Re: Ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in dem
TFF. It's like PG's greatest hits: The mythical Unicorn, er.. I mean Equestrian Specialist search for the school in Shangri-La er.. I mean Japan. Ranking Math Specialists as the LEAST difficult to fill, just to be different from virtually any other person even vaguely familiar with teaching as a profession, and feeling the need to list something like aboriginal expat teachers of subjects like Hawaiian language and culture.
And to top it off he missed the hardest positions to fill, like qualified instructors of left-handed, underwater basketweaving being taught in Latin (or even Pig-Latin).
For the OP, obviously the generally accepted definition of in-demand subjects refers to subjects that are actually offered/valued by a significant number of schools AND have a relatively small pool of well qualified applicants. I don't really have much to offer for a ranking beyond the obvious and usual suspects (e.g. Math and Science Specialists, SPED/SEN, Counselors, etc.). But thanks for the memories!
And to top it off he missed the hardest positions to fill, like qualified instructors of left-handed, underwater basketweaving being taught in Latin (or even Pig-Latin).
For the OP, obviously the generally accepted definition of in-demand subjects refers to subjects that are actually offered/valued by a significant number of schools AND have a relatively small pool of well qualified applicants. I don't really have much to offer for a ranking beyond the obvious and usual suspects (e.g. Math and Science Specialists, SPED/SEN, Counselors, etc.). But thanks for the memories!
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Heliotrope
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Re: Ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in dem
@MartElla
You're exactly right. I was (of course) looking for the more regular subjects:
Biology, Mathematics (HL, SL & Studies), Visual arts, Computer science, Elementary Homeroom Teacher, Chemistry, University Counseling, Design Technology, Physics, Sports, Economics, Geography, Global politics, History, Psychology, etc.
@PsyGuy
No need to sigh, I used the search function first. I couldn't find a similar topic, although a lot of keywords are ignored by the search engine because they are too common. It would be great if you could post a link to that topic in between sighs.
@wrldtrvlr123
Most schools in Shangri-La are actually bottom tier 3, so I wouldn't even bother with them.
You're exactly right. I was (of course) looking for the more regular subjects:
Biology, Mathematics (HL, SL & Studies), Visual arts, Computer science, Elementary Homeroom Teacher, Chemistry, University Counseling, Design Technology, Physics, Sports, Economics, Geography, Global politics, History, Psychology, etc.
@PsyGuy
No need to sigh, I used the search function first. I couldn't find a similar topic, although a lot of keywords are ignored by the search engine because they are too common. It would be great if you could post a link to that topic in between sighs.
@wrldtrvlr123
Most schools in Shangri-La are actually bottom tier 3, so I wouldn't even bother with them.
Re: Ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in dem
In my experience, science and math are in more demand simply because they are core subjects but fewer teachers are qualified to teach them. Especially if the school is looking to fill something like an AP Physics position. English is commonly thought to be the most difficult to get hired in because there are so many English teachers, but there are also more positions available. At the fair it seems like almost every school has at least one English opening. EAL teachers seem to be more in demand than ELA or lit teachers these days.
Another subject that seems to be on the rise is Mandarin, judging by the job postings.
I think the question is not only of demand, but also of supply. Elementary openings abound but so do elementary school teachers. In general, math/science seem to have the most favorable supply/demand ratio (favorable to teachers looking for a job). English probably has the lowest, but it depends. There are lots of EAL teachers. Schools that are looking for experienced English teachers with subject MAs are probably looking at a smaller pool.
Another subject that seems to be on the rise is Mandarin, judging by the job postings.
I think the question is not only of demand, but also of supply. Elementary openings abound but so do elementary school teachers. In general, math/science seem to have the most favorable supply/demand ratio (favorable to teachers looking for a job). English probably has the lowest, but it depends. There are lots of EAL teachers. Schools that are looking for experienced English teachers with subject MAs are probably looking at a smaller pool.
Re: Ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in dem
monkeycat - I think elementary posts and some of the social sciences are considered the easiest to fill. Elementary because of the sheer number of teachers available and social sciences because there are, say, a lot of history teachers but few positions in each school. English has a lot of teachers so it's obvious up there, but also a lot of positions.
So, while Physics or Chem teachers are the rock stars early on in their career, an argument could be made that if you are an experienced teacher of English with IB experience, tier 1 experience, IB examiner experience and so on, then you might be in a great position as you have jobs in nearly all schools to aim for and most of the competition isn't worth worrying about as they won't have the experience/background and so on. There'll never be as many physics openings so it might be that the schools you really want to aim at simply might not be an option that particular year.
Ultimately, I don't think you can beat being an IB HL Math teacher. A lot of Math teachers can't even teach that level (or choose not to, not sure which) and there are always lots of openings as it is one of two full core subjects along with English. Not every student will take physics at IB level, but they'll all take English and Math.
So, while Physics or Chem teachers are the rock stars early on in their career, an argument could be made that if you are an experienced teacher of English with IB experience, tier 1 experience, IB examiner experience and so on, then you might be in a great position as you have jobs in nearly all schools to aim for and most of the competition isn't worth worrying about as they won't have the experience/background and so on. There'll never be as many physics openings so it might be that the schools you really want to aim at simply might not be an option that particular year.
Ultimately, I don't think you can beat being an IB HL Math teacher. A lot of Math teachers can't even teach that level (or choose not to, not sure which) and there are always lots of openings as it is one of two full core subjects along with English. Not every student will take physics at IB level, but they'll all take English and Math.
Re: Ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in dem
If you look at the description of the January London Search job fair, it says this:
CURRICULUM
Recruiters attend seeking mostly to hire teachers whose experience is consistent with the fair's curriculum focus (see above). Teachers lacking this experience can sometimes be successful if they offer shortage expertise as first choice - Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics HL, French plus Spanish, Early Childhood and KG, Music, Elementary PE, Elementary Art & Design, Special Education, Counselors, Apple-experienced technology integrators, and Librarians
https://www.searchassociates.com/intern ... n-january/
They don't seem to mention Equestrian Specialists, but I'm sure that's just an oversight on their part . . .
CURRICULUM
Recruiters attend seeking mostly to hire teachers whose experience is consistent with the fair's curriculum focus (see above). Teachers lacking this experience can sometimes be successful if they offer shortage expertise as first choice - Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics HL, French plus Spanish, Early Childhood and KG, Music, Elementary PE, Elementary Art & Design, Special Education, Counselors, Apple-experienced technology integrators, and Librarians
https://www.searchassociates.com/intern ... n-january/
They don't seem to mention Equestrian Specialists, but I'm sure that's just an oversight on their part . . .
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Thames Pirate
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Re: Ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in dem
The equestrian specialist thread was deleted for good reason.
Obviously super bizarre specialist positions are hardest to fill, but also hardest to find if you happen to be an expert in left-handed underwater basket weaving in Latin.
The specialist need and availability for things like PE, art, music, drama (especially IB) are their own categories--far fewer vacancies, people are less mobile as they build programs, and perhaps harder to get a foot in the door re: startups or smaller schools, but also when there are vacancies they are both competitive and, if you're good and have experience, sometimes easy to land. It really depends on the year for a lot of these, and experience is a big factor for demand. Library, counselling, and SPED also fall in this category.
Within the sciences, physics seems to be the hardest to fill, then bio, then chem. Upper level maths is up there as well.
Within the humanities, Econ isn't hard to fill if you just have some history teacher doing a moderate job. If you want someone good who is an actual specialist it becomes somewhat difficult as, like the sciences, those folks can make a lot more money in other fields. So truly good econ specialists who can also do other humanities do better than a middle school social studies specialist who can also do econ. Otherwise English and humanities are heavily dependent on extras: CAS coordination, MUN, HOD, IB examiner, years of experience.
Language teachers who can offer more than one, particularly Spanish and/or French PLUS one other that the school wants, do better than, say, a straight German teacher. EAL teachers are a dime a dozen unless they are true English B IBDP specialists who can also teach something else. Bonus if it's EAL plus one or two foreign languages.
Primary classroom is the easiest to fill, though within that early childhood specialists with degrees in that are perhaps ever so slightly advantaged.
IT as a subject is becoming more and more desired, so if you are tech savvy and can actually teach academic tech, that's a relatively good one.
Obviously super bizarre specialist positions are hardest to fill, but also hardest to find if you happen to be an expert in left-handed underwater basket weaving in Latin.
The specialist need and availability for things like PE, art, music, drama (especially IB) are their own categories--far fewer vacancies, people are less mobile as they build programs, and perhaps harder to get a foot in the door re: startups or smaller schools, but also when there are vacancies they are both competitive and, if you're good and have experience, sometimes easy to land. It really depends on the year for a lot of these, and experience is a big factor for demand. Library, counselling, and SPED also fall in this category.
Within the sciences, physics seems to be the hardest to fill, then bio, then chem. Upper level maths is up there as well.
Within the humanities, Econ isn't hard to fill if you just have some history teacher doing a moderate job. If you want someone good who is an actual specialist it becomes somewhat difficult as, like the sciences, those folks can make a lot more money in other fields. So truly good econ specialists who can also do other humanities do better than a middle school social studies specialist who can also do econ. Otherwise English and humanities are heavily dependent on extras: CAS coordination, MUN, HOD, IB examiner, years of experience.
Language teachers who can offer more than one, particularly Spanish and/or French PLUS one other that the school wants, do better than, say, a straight German teacher. EAL teachers are a dime a dozen unless they are true English B IBDP specialists who can also teach something else. Bonus if it's EAL plus one or two foreign languages.
Primary classroom is the easiest to fill, though within that early childhood specialists with degrees in that are perhaps ever so slightly advantaged.
IT as a subject is becoming more and more desired, so if you are tech savvy and can actually teach academic tech, that's a relatively good one.
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teacher tan
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Re: Ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in dem
Apart from HL math and physics, there are a dime dozen for everything else.
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@WT123
Didnt miss it its between #3 and #5,
@shadylane
No they do not, these are positions that you dont recruit for at a fair, its poor time management, you out source it to a recruiting agency.
@MartElla
Thats probable, but I had no direction from what the LW was looking for, they may have been interested in what are the most difficult positions for someone to go into, and while they are extremely specialized niche vacancies they are the most difficult to fill. I do however appreciate your point.
Its a lot of maths ITs cant really teach above algebra or geometry, which really comes down to calculus. A lot of them muddled their way through calculus so they could get into med school, and then that didnt work out, or they didnt take calculus at all. If you know what your doing calculus is pretty easy to teach, because the students generally know what they are doing. The hardest maths to teach is algebra when you have a classroom of students who are just horrible at maths and algebra is usually the first year of discreet maths coming from an integrated maths program, and they just cant do it. Pushing them through that and trying to get some kind of performance scores that dont result in crying requires a maths whisperer.
That literature/physics argument doesnt work very well, yes there will never be that many physics positions compared to literature, but your neglecting that physics ITs can teach more than just physics, to include general science, earth/space science, maybe chemistry (the hard part of chemistry is the stoichiometry, and thats math and thats something physics ITs are good at), plus ancillary subject areas such as engineering, robotics, etc. When an IS doesnt have a designated DT/CSI program its usually the maths or the physics IT that flip a coin to decide who takes it.
No they will not ALL take maths at HL, they will all take maths but they will also ALL take science. Not every student will take physics at DIP level but there is a lot of science in secondary that physics ITs can offer.
@Heliotrope
Fair Enough, below is the rest of the list containing the more conventional subjects. I weighted them for both demand and supply to reach a 'difficulty' ranking, with the understanding that these subjects tend to move in cycles. Starting at the top and most difficult:
ICT-CSI/Programming
Maths
*Counselor-University
Physics
ICT-DT
Chemistry
ICT
**Special Education-Specialist
Foreign Language/Trilingual
Literature-Foreign
Dance
PHE-Sports/Coaching
ESOLForeign Language/Bilingual
Economics
ENS-Earth Science
PHE-Sports/Aquatics
Geography
Biology
Music
Art
ENS
***Librarian
Literature-Journalism/Speech
Theater
Global Perspectives
Literature
Psychology-Sociology
History
General Science
Business Studies
Psychology
Social Studies
Family Consumer Science/Home Economics
PHE
Elementary/Primary
Special Education-Generalist
Literature-Reading
***Counselor
ESOL
**** Early Childhood
Political Science/Civics/Government
G&T
Notes:
* This assumes a University Counselor who actually knows their stuff and has the connections for all five of the US/UK/EU/CAN/AUS systems. If its just a counselor who can put together recs and knows the system they came from than see counselor below.
** This is for a specialist in SPED/SEN/LD who can wear all the hats, and can work the entire spectrum. If its just a SPED/SEN/LD IT who can do paperwork and some tutoring than see the generalist classification below.
*** I put these so low because they really belong on the Junior Leadership scale. ISs dont really need counselors its just another student management position to inflate the leadership hierarchy. Its for when the AP/VP/DP doesnt want to do the PTA or parents coffee mixer, and senior leadership wants a buffer between them and the faculty and everyone else. Librarian is a curious position because students dont really need libraries anymore, its one thing if the librarian is actually providing instruction in reading or research or technical/academic writing, but if they are just watching a room with some meeting areas and some stacks of YA fiction and magazines, you dont need much of a librarian.
**** Anyone can do this who is an adult, provided the job is nothing more than babysitting and child care.
I had mixed feelings for music, I could of broken it out into music-instrumental and music-choral but there would have been a lot of curriculum specific weightings, and ultimately I just left in generalized.
There is no link, that entire thread was deleted.
While Shangri-La is fictional, Bhutan which is very similar, does have a IE program that staffs their DSs with NESs.
Didnt miss it its between #3 and #5,
@shadylane
No they do not, these are positions that you dont recruit for at a fair, its poor time management, you out source it to a recruiting agency.
@MartElla
Thats probable, but I had no direction from what the LW was looking for, they may have been interested in what are the most difficult positions for someone to go into, and while they are extremely specialized niche vacancies they are the most difficult to fill. I do however appreciate your point.
Its a lot of maths ITs cant really teach above algebra or geometry, which really comes down to calculus. A lot of them muddled their way through calculus so they could get into med school, and then that didnt work out, or they didnt take calculus at all. If you know what your doing calculus is pretty easy to teach, because the students generally know what they are doing. The hardest maths to teach is algebra when you have a classroom of students who are just horrible at maths and algebra is usually the first year of discreet maths coming from an integrated maths program, and they just cant do it. Pushing them through that and trying to get some kind of performance scores that dont result in crying requires a maths whisperer.
That literature/physics argument doesnt work very well, yes there will never be that many physics positions compared to literature, but your neglecting that physics ITs can teach more than just physics, to include general science, earth/space science, maybe chemistry (the hard part of chemistry is the stoichiometry, and thats math and thats something physics ITs are good at), plus ancillary subject areas such as engineering, robotics, etc. When an IS doesnt have a designated DT/CSI program its usually the maths or the physics IT that flip a coin to decide who takes it.
No they will not ALL take maths at HL, they will all take maths but they will also ALL take science. Not every student will take physics at DIP level but there is a lot of science in secondary that physics ITs can offer.
@Heliotrope
Fair Enough, below is the rest of the list containing the more conventional subjects. I weighted them for both demand and supply to reach a 'difficulty' ranking, with the understanding that these subjects tend to move in cycles. Starting at the top and most difficult:
ICT-CSI/Programming
Maths
*Counselor-University
Physics
ICT-DT
Chemistry
ICT
**Special Education-Specialist
Foreign Language/Trilingual
Literature-Foreign
Dance
PHE-Sports/Coaching
ESOLForeign Language/Bilingual
Economics
ENS-Earth Science
PHE-Sports/Aquatics
Geography
Biology
Music
Art
ENS
***Librarian
Literature-Journalism/Speech
Theater
Global Perspectives
Literature
Psychology-Sociology
History
General Science
Business Studies
Psychology
Social Studies
Family Consumer Science/Home Economics
PHE
Elementary/Primary
Special Education-Generalist
Literature-Reading
***Counselor
ESOL
**** Early Childhood
Political Science/Civics/Government
G&T
Notes:
* This assumes a University Counselor who actually knows their stuff and has the connections for all five of the US/UK/EU/CAN/AUS systems. If its just a counselor who can put together recs and knows the system they came from than see counselor below.
** This is for a specialist in SPED/SEN/LD who can wear all the hats, and can work the entire spectrum. If its just a SPED/SEN/LD IT who can do paperwork and some tutoring than see the generalist classification below.
*** I put these so low because they really belong on the Junior Leadership scale. ISs dont really need counselors its just another student management position to inflate the leadership hierarchy. Its for when the AP/VP/DP doesnt want to do the PTA or parents coffee mixer, and senior leadership wants a buffer between them and the faculty and everyone else. Librarian is a curious position because students dont really need libraries anymore, its one thing if the librarian is actually providing instruction in reading or research or technical/academic writing, but if they are just watching a room with some meeting areas and some stacks of YA fiction and magazines, you dont need much of a librarian.
**** Anyone can do this who is an adult, provided the job is nothing more than babysitting and child care.
I had mixed feelings for music, I could of broken it out into music-instrumental and music-choral but there would have been a lot of curriculum specific weightings, and ultimately I just left in generalized.
There is no link, that entire thread was deleted.
While Shangri-La is fictional, Bhutan which is very similar, does have a IE program that staffs their DSs with NESs.
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shadowjack
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Re: Ranking of subjects, from most in demand to least in dem
My IT/Design friends are never lacking for work.
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PsyGuy wrote:
> That literature/physics argument doesnt work very well, yes there will
> never be that many physics positions compared to literature, but your
> neglecting that physics ITs can teach more than just physics, to include
> general science, earth/space science, maybe chemistry (the hard part of
> chemistry is the stoichiometry, and thats math and thats something physics
> ITs are good at), plus ancillary subject areas such as engineering,
> robotics, etc. When an IS doesnt have a designated DT/CSI program its
> usually the maths or the physics IT that flip a coin to decide who takes
> it.
>
> No they will not ALL take maths at HL, they will all take maths but they
> will also ALL take science. Not every student will take physics at DIP
> level but there is a lot of science in secondary that physics ITs can
> offer.
>
My point wasn't that being a lit teacher suddenly becomes more valuable that being a physics teacher. Merely that it's a very different scenario for an experienced teacher than a newbie. If you're GOOD and you can back it up, then there's a lot of jobs to go for. Get 10 years IB + Master's + IB experience + IB examiner and factor in the number of jobs available each year, and I'm not too sure that's such a bad position to be in.
> That literature/physics argument doesnt work very well, yes there will
> never be that many physics positions compared to literature, but your
> neglecting that physics ITs can teach more than just physics, to include
> general science, earth/space science, maybe chemistry (the hard part of
> chemistry is the stoichiometry, and thats math and thats something physics
> ITs are good at), plus ancillary subject areas such as engineering,
> robotics, etc. When an IS doesnt have a designated DT/CSI program its
> usually the maths or the physics IT that flip a coin to decide who takes
> it.
>
> No they will not ALL take maths at HL, they will all take maths but they
> will also ALL take science. Not every student will take physics at DIP
> level but there is a lot of science in secondary that physics ITs can
> offer.
>
My point wasn't that being a lit teacher suddenly becomes more valuable that being a physics teacher. Merely that it's a very different scenario for an experienced teacher than a newbie. If you're GOOD and you can back it up, then there's a lot of jobs to go for. Get 10 years IB + Master's + IB experience + IB examiner and factor in the number of jobs available each year, and I'm not too sure that's such a bad position to be in.
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@MartElla
That statement is true across any and all subjects, your claim is essentially that if you have everything recruiters are looking for, than your highly likely to be successful at being recruited. Water is also wet.
That statement is true across any and all subjects, your claim is essentially that if you have everything recruiters are looking for, than your highly likely to be successful at being recruited. Water is also wet.
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Heliotrope
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PsyGuy wrote:
> Water is also wet.
Actually, water isn't wet.
Wetness is a description of our experience of water. It's what happens to us when we come into contact with water in such a way that it impinges on our state of being. We, or our possessions, 'get wet', but water itself isn't wet.
Thanks for your list btw!
If you would divide Maths up in HL and SL & studies, would SL & Studies drop on your ranking below Physics?
> Water is also wet.
Actually, water isn't wet.
Wetness is a description of our experience of water. It's what happens to us when we come into contact with water in such a way that it impinges on our state of being. We, or our possessions, 'get wet', but water itself isn't wet.
Thanks for your list btw!
If you would divide Maths up in HL and SL & studies, would SL & Studies drop on your ranking below Physics?