Why do we continue to care about what this fool says...
Maybe it's because it's impossible to avoid him. I used to genuinely enjoy using this forum to discuss issues and learn about international education in general. Now, every time I see that this clown has contributed to a thread, I immediately log off. He clearly has the same effect on many others.
I don't necessarily condone axing you from the forum Psyguy, but as a matter of common courtesy or just plain common sense, back off every once in a while. The fact that you attempt to answer almost every query or comment on almost every posting reeks of arrogance and poor taste. If you were a bit more selective and thought a bit more before you began to type, then maybe you would sound (let alone read!) like more of a professional.
As it stands, you are a joke.
The Principles of the Principals?
Re: Not really...
[quote="PsyGuy"]I too am a mental health professional (LPC) and School Psychological Specialist. My edits were only out of courtesy. If you read my following post you will see that the parent waived confidentiality when filing their complaint, as commission hearing are legally public record, and hearing are open to the public, so its a moot point and any possible or perceived transgression is academic.[/quote]
Good point psyguy. I want to chime in and say that I do enjoy reading most of what you write, though I can see how some of it is offensive to others.
Your professional status does make me curious about something. Psychodynamically speaking, why do you think that some readers have such a strong reaction to you? I look forward to your response.
Good point psyguy. I want to chime in and say that I do enjoy reading most of what you write, though I can see how some of it is offensive to others.
Your professional status does make me curious about something. Psychodynamically speaking, why do you think that some readers have such a strong reaction to you? I look forward to your response.
Maybe you can explain
Well maybe you can explain to me whats so "offensive" about me???
(For the record, I used to post a LOT more, in the past it was common to see my name and EVERY single post going own the most recent post column, I used to have the "last word" on everything. I dont even come close to doing that anymore).
I dont make anyone read what I write, Im very polite in my responses, I dont use vulgarities, or make personal attacks. I dont misrepresent anything i write as "fact", Im humble and have no problem admitting when I'm wrong.
Without going into a lot or deep detail, I could summize and just say Im very similar to a lot of "polarized" personalities like anne coulter or rush limbaugh, in that whatever I write, love me or hate me "Im listened too", it builds an audience....
Take the last comment for instance, the author doesnt like me, finds my comments without merit, and offensive, yet they have a strong enough reaction to respond to it, and its "responses" that drive the forum, that strengthens the message. Whats that old tired out clichie go? "theres no such thing as "bad PR", or from a psycho dynamic (nor freudian perspective) "its better to be looked over, then overlooked"???
If you want a simplified DSM Dx, its likely a form of narcissism. Same drive for those who run blogs about their "daily life", or tweet about their own over hyped lives, who cant have their 15 minutes of fame all at once, so theyre "building" their own 15 minute's???
(For the record, I used to post a LOT more, in the past it was common to see my name and EVERY single post going own the most recent post column, I used to have the "last word" on everything. I dont even come close to doing that anymore).
I dont make anyone read what I write, Im very polite in my responses, I dont use vulgarities, or make personal attacks. I dont misrepresent anything i write as "fact", Im humble and have no problem admitting when I'm wrong.
Without going into a lot or deep detail, I could summize and just say Im very similar to a lot of "polarized" personalities like anne coulter or rush limbaugh, in that whatever I write, love me or hate me "Im listened too", it builds an audience....
Take the last comment for instance, the author doesnt like me, finds my comments without merit, and offensive, yet they have a strong enough reaction to respond to it, and its "responses" that drive the forum, that strengthens the message. Whats that old tired out clichie go? "theres no such thing as "bad PR", or from a psycho dynamic (nor freudian perspective) "its better to be looked over, then overlooked"???
If you want a simplified DSM Dx, its likely a form of narcissism. Same drive for those who run blogs about their "daily life", or tweet about their own over hyped lives, who cant have their 15 minutes of fame all at once, so theyre "building" their own 15 minute's???
Re: Maybe you can explain
[quote="PsyGuy"]Well maybe you can explain to me whats so "offensive" about me???
(For the record, I used to post a LOT more, in the past it was common to see my name and EVERY single post going own the most recent post column, I used to have the "last word" on everything. I dont even come close to doing that anymore).
I dont make anyone read what I write, Im very polite in my responses, I dont use vulgarities, or make personal attacks. I dont misrepresent anything i write as "fact", Im humble and have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. "
Well, how about a post that was started by someone called Elsa here, with a stinking condescending attitude about her desire to teach in Paris, France? That was offensive anad definitely in poor taste and thus, definitely not polite.
(For the record, I used to post a LOT more, in the past it was common to see my name and EVERY single post going own the most recent post column, I used to have the "last word" on everything. I dont even come close to doing that anymore).
I dont make anyone read what I write, Im very polite in my responses, I dont use vulgarities, or make personal attacks. I dont misrepresent anything i write as "fact", Im humble and have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. "
Well, how about a post that was started by someone called Elsa here, with a stinking condescending attitude about her desire to teach in Paris, France? That was offensive anad definitely in poor taste and thus, definitely not polite.
Well
My intention was to really make an impact-full point. Sometimes telling the hard reality is just that, hard. I think it was a very poignant comment. Someone taking offensive doesnt require that someone (I) gave the offense....
Peter's Principle
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I've thought about a blog, but I always dismiss it, I'm more an ask question, reply with answer kinda guy, and I really hate "dumping"? Either your blog posts are unfocused, or too general to really help much. Secondly, I dont know everything, I've lived/worked/taught in 10/12 places. It might be more then most people but really its just a sprinkling. For instance I taught last year in Italy, but anywhere outside of Rome, other then general information, id just be extrapolating.
Well yeah the Peter principal kind of does apply, admins (myself included) quickly get out of touch with whats going on in a classroom and how the classroom works, especially when you move and havent taught in a classroom in that region/classroom.
Well yeah the Peter principal kind of does apply, admins (myself included) quickly get out of touch with whats going on in a classroom and how the classroom works, especially when you move and havent taught in a classroom in that region/classroom.
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Re: Maybe you can explain
Hi PsyGuy,
Ok, I'll try to explain. For me, Martin Buber's idea of mutuality in relationships really comes to mind. I believe that mutuality is the basis of all genuine meeting, self knowledge and knowledge of others. Without mutuality, true conversations cannot really happen. I think it was very indicative when compared yourself to Rush Limbaugh. I find it unfortunate and sad that you would compare yourself to such a personality. I grew up listening to Rush with my father, so I will speak on this. There exists no mutuality in a Rush Limbaugh conversation. In polarizing and simplifying political ideas and events, Rush can position himself as an expert and objectify others. I would caution that in this relationship no true conversation or learning can happen. You try to get your legitimate needs for relationship met, but they never are. The true self never exists in this part of a person's functioning.
Consider transference and counter-transference. I'm guessing that for some unspoken reasons, you find it very compelling to speak as a Rush Limbaugh character in this forum. You come looking for connection, but believe that the Rush persona will give you the interactions that you want. I'm sure that it's easy for you to see how this is connected to the story of your young developing self. I suppose that the people who respond to you the loudest are those who are sensitive of how others want to hold power over them. Your agenda is to get strong reactions and build an audience (among more admirable things). That really gets under the skin of people with a history of others who also have done that. They immediately smell it and reject it. It's also uncomfortable for people who just want to have adult interaction, but its much less likely that type of person will really feel the need to speak up.
I think you deal with this problem here, at work, and in your personal life. Perhaps you feel this, perhaps you don't. I think that it would be an upgrade in each of those areas for you to start bringing your genuine self and truly interacting with others.
Best of luck to you.
Ok, I'll try to explain. For me, Martin Buber's idea of mutuality in relationships really comes to mind. I believe that mutuality is the basis of all genuine meeting, self knowledge and knowledge of others. Without mutuality, true conversations cannot really happen. I think it was very indicative when compared yourself to Rush Limbaugh. I find it unfortunate and sad that you would compare yourself to such a personality. I grew up listening to Rush with my father, so I will speak on this. There exists no mutuality in a Rush Limbaugh conversation. In polarizing and simplifying political ideas and events, Rush can position himself as an expert and objectify others. I would caution that in this relationship no true conversation or learning can happen. You try to get your legitimate needs for relationship met, but they never are. The true self never exists in this part of a person's functioning.
Consider transference and counter-transference. I'm guessing that for some unspoken reasons, you find it very compelling to speak as a Rush Limbaugh character in this forum. You come looking for connection, but believe that the Rush persona will give you the interactions that you want. I'm sure that it's easy for you to see how this is connected to the story of your young developing self. I suppose that the people who respond to you the loudest are those who are sensitive of how others want to hold power over them. Your agenda is to get strong reactions and build an audience (among more admirable things). That really gets under the skin of people with a history of others who also have done that. They immediately smell it and reject it. It's also uncomfortable for people who just want to have adult interaction, but its much less likely that type of person will really feel the need to speak up.
I think you deal with this problem here, at work, and in your personal life. Perhaps you feel this, perhaps you don't. I think that it would be an upgrade in each of those areas for you to start bringing your genuine self and truly interacting with others.
Best of luck to you.
Sure...
Yeah, I'd agree with you on that at a simplistic level, this forum gives me a very different opportunity to interact with my audience that I couldnt do so in person for professional reasons. The anonymity allows me to up the level of my message that could have repercussions for me personally/professionally. I think thats primarily true of a lot of forums though. Its not a different me, just getting to express the more polar ends of my own personality that are typically suppressed as part of my "idealized self image".
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nikkor
I have to be honest and say that I have more concerns about you making attempts to "heal" Psyguy over the mysterious clod of the world wide web that I do about Psyguy getting a little close to the line with his example.
I think it fascinating that you have drawn up theories and models developed mainly in an age when the internet did not exist and some before Victoria came to the throne in Great Britain to sort some of the damage you see in Psyguy. Psyguy does not actually exist. He/she is an online personality which may bear no relation to his/her real personality at all, and even if that does not really matter I would question the benefit of trying to heal him/her on this thead. I would also question the ethics of doing so. There may be a number of people who actually know who Psyguy is in reality and if this is the case I question whether you should be making such unsolicited attempts to heal him/her.
Of course you may actually be Psyguy, knowingly or unknowingly responding to your own comments.
The only other thing I would reflect upon, is that you appear to be one of the individuals that felt the need to comment loudly to Psyguy's post and therefore I guess this might make you one of the individuals you referrerd to in your own post.
A wonderful thread and some fascinating issues to reflect upon.
Now not wishing to bring the whole thing down to the level of a gypsy reading the tealeaves, if you wanted to have a go at sorting me out nikkor I would be only too pleased.
I have to be honest and say that I have more concerns about you making attempts to "heal" Psyguy over the mysterious clod of the world wide web that I do about Psyguy getting a little close to the line with his example.
I think it fascinating that you have drawn up theories and models developed mainly in an age when the internet did not exist and some before Victoria came to the throne in Great Britain to sort some of the damage you see in Psyguy. Psyguy does not actually exist. He/she is an online personality which may bear no relation to his/her real personality at all, and even if that does not really matter I would question the benefit of trying to heal him/her on this thead. I would also question the ethics of doing so. There may be a number of people who actually know who Psyguy is in reality and if this is the case I question whether you should be making such unsolicited attempts to heal him/her.
Of course you may actually be Psyguy, knowingly or unknowingly responding to your own comments.
The only other thing I would reflect upon, is that you appear to be one of the individuals that felt the need to comment loudly to Psyguy's post and therefore I guess this might make you one of the individuals you referrerd to in your own post.
A wonderful thread and some fascinating issues to reflect upon.
Now not wishing to bring the whole thing down to the level of a gypsy reading the tealeaves, if you wanted to have a go at sorting me out nikkor I would be only too pleased.
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[quote="Teachergirl"]nikkor
I have to be honest and say that I have more concerns about you making attempts to "heal" Psyguy over the mysterious clod of the world wide web that I do about Psyguy getting a little close to the line with his example.
I think it fascinating that you have drawn up theories and models developed mainly in an age when the internet did not exist and some before Victoria came to the throne in Great Britain to sort some of the damage you see in Psyguy. Psyguy does not actually exist. He/she is an online personality which may bear no relation to his/her real personality at all, and even if that does not really matter I would question the benefit of trying to heal him/her on this thead. I would also question the ethics of doing so. There may be a number of people who actually know who Psyguy is in reality and if this is the case I question whether you should be making such unsolicited attempts to heal him/her.
Of course you may actually be Psyguy, knowingly or unknowingly responding to your own comments.
The only other thing I would reflect upon, is that you appear to be one of the individuals that felt the need to comment loudly to Psyguy's post and therefore I guess this might make you one of the individuals you referrerd to in your own post.
A wonderful thread and some fascinating issues to reflect upon.
Now not wishing to bring the whole thing down to the level of a gypsy reading the tealeaves, if you wanted to have a go at sorting me out nikkor I would be only too pleased.[/quote]
Actually he's very similar on another Teacher's forum that we post on (shoots from the hip, polarizing, knowledgable and opinionated in equal measures) and I would imagine he is like that in real life as well (although not necessarily at work).
Get him talking about his social life! That's always fun! How's the scene in Denmark, Psyguy? Finding anyone to keep you warm during those cold nights? Danish girls any easier to figure out than the Italian ones?
I have to be honest and say that I have more concerns about you making attempts to "heal" Psyguy over the mysterious clod of the world wide web that I do about Psyguy getting a little close to the line with his example.
I think it fascinating that you have drawn up theories and models developed mainly in an age when the internet did not exist and some before Victoria came to the throne in Great Britain to sort some of the damage you see in Psyguy. Psyguy does not actually exist. He/she is an online personality which may bear no relation to his/her real personality at all, and even if that does not really matter I would question the benefit of trying to heal him/her on this thead. I would also question the ethics of doing so. There may be a number of people who actually know who Psyguy is in reality and if this is the case I question whether you should be making such unsolicited attempts to heal him/her.
Of course you may actually be Psyguy, knowingly or unknowingly responding to your own comments.
The only other thing I would reflect upon, is that you appear to be one of the individuals that felt the need to comment loudly to Psyguy's post and therefore I guess this might make you one of the individuals you referrerd to in your own post.
A wonderful thread and some fascinating issues to reflect upon.
Now not wishing to bring the whole thing down to the level of a gypsy reading the tealeaves, if you wanted to have a go at sorting me out nikkor I would be only too pleased.[/quote]
Actually he's very similar on another Teacher's forum that we post on (shoots from the hip, polarizing, knowledgable and opinionated in equal measures) and I would imagine he is like that in real life as well (although not necessarily at work).
Get him talking about his social life! That's always fun! How's the scene in Denmark, Psyguy? Finding anyone to keep you warm during those cold nights? Danish girls any easier to figure out than the Italian ones?
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