Beirut was called the Paris of the Middle East.

Was London the european NYC ?

tangchao wrote:
I doubt it will be the case for business.


Business (+econ) teachers tend to be in short supply at the moment.

Contact a bunch of schools and see what they can do for you. Some may offer you a job while you do your iPGCE. I've known a few people do that. Be flexible on location (China?), and you'll be golden.

Spawnboy99 wrote:
> @popgirl, Not the question as I have said have taught both locally and
> internationally for over 2 decades now, what I meant is that it seems a lot
> of educators once they are in and using the IB curriculum tend to stay in
> the IB curriculum, does this then narrow your opportunity in the future to
> seek other schools which use a different curriculum.


So you mean, is it difficult to go back to a US, Can, Aus or UK style school after teaching the IB ? I'd guess that would depend on the school you were applying to, and the preconceptions of the admin on the IB. I can't imagine it would narrow them much internationally - quite the reverse. At least that's been my experience. Maybe if you were trying to go back home, they'd prefer someone who'd been working in a school with the same curriculum . ?

I thought the University of Bath was one of the main ones in IE ?

I didn't find it very difficult getting a job in an IB school. Good teaching is good teaching.

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Also does working in an IB school narrow your job prospect as you haven't been exposed to other curriculums?
[/quote]

Why wouldn't you have taught other curriculums ? Didn't you teach at home first ?

It's time to move on, but applying for jobs and moving countries / continents on top of a super busy schedule - I'm not feeling it. What's it like out there this year ? The midterms don't make me want to go home either.

freetofly2022 wrote:
> What type of bonus are you referring to? How much if money? Is a sign on
> bonus a standard thing to ask for?

Often around 10% - but it depends.

It's also very unlikely to be a sign on bonus. More likely a completion of contract bonus or 'pension contribution'.

freetofly2022 wrote:
> Thank you all for a response but I am seeking an actual number to start
> from and end from. What should I be getting for an actual salary per year?
> Thank you.


Around $4k to $5k after tax per month, with accommodation, flights and some kind of bonus on top.

ChemEd wrote:
> I am likely going to be leaving my current school at the end of June 2023
> (will be returning home to be closer to family). I teach IBDP chemistry.
> What is your opinion? Do I let my admin know now that I am likely to depart
> or do I hold that close to my chest and only announce in November when I'm
> required to disclose my intentions? Pros and cons please.


Now seems early, and the November deadline is entirely reasonable, but it depends on your school and your situation. Are you returning home, or to another international job closer to home? Are your admin fair minded people ? Are you in a good school ? If so, just be open with them. You're leaving for good / understandable reasons. They're unlikely to hold it against you.

PsyGuy wrote:
> Fairs will continue as long as leaders want them.


I agree. I'm not so cynical as to believe it's quite for the same reasons as you though. My old Principal used to say it was because she could get a better feel for the candidate in a 1-2-1 meeting than on Skype / Zoom. She preferred a final in person meeting before they signed a contract. I believed her. There were plenty of other better opportunities to travel, network and have fun on the school's dime than recruitment fairs. Leadership conferences for a start. Not that she was a big one for those either.

PsyGuy wrote:
> That is because those lists (such as by @Heliotrope) arent very accurate.
> They are mostly ego reinforcement in the form of theyre a top class IT and
> they taught at the IS so it must be a top tier IS. The pool of elite tier
> ISs really is very small, low single digit percent overall.


Could you name any schools that you think are definitely elite tier in all senses - not just 'coin'.

wayfarer wrote:
> It depends on how you define top-tier.
> I got a teaching position at a top tier IB school with 2 years of IBDP
> experience. However, I would not describe that school as a top tier school.
> Though I have seen it appear regularly on numerous ISR top tier school
> lists.
> I did go on to teach in a (what I would classify) solid top tier school
> after 5 years of teaching IBDP

The one I was thinking of is in Bangkok.

I've known people get jobs at top tier IB schools with 2 to 3 years IB experience.

You're close. It's roughly as follows: (KS = Key Stage)
Primary school:
KS1 - Years 1 and 2 (KG and Grade 1)
KS2 - Years 3 to 6 (Grades 2 to 5)
Secondary school:
KS3 - Years 7 to 9 (Grades 6 to 8)
KS4 - Years 10 & 11 (Grades 9 and 10) GCSEs (or sometimes iGCSEs) are generally taken at the end of Year 11.
KS5 - Years 12 & 13 (Grades 11 and 12) A levels (or sometimes the IB diploma) are generally taken at the end of Year 13.

As Scots will tell you ad nauseam, they have their own system north of the border. Wales and NI kind of follow the above system with some local adaptations and differences.

It's true that setting is common in Maths, sometimes Science and Foreign Languages. English, the Humanities, Design, PE and the Arts tend to be taught in mixed ability groups.

Grading in Primary and KS3 (aka Middle School) is generally what you guys would call standards or criterion based. This has been the case since at least the late 1990s. GCSE and A level assessment have similar systems to the IB diploma. If you've taught the IB in grades 11 and 12, you'll pick up GCSE and A level assessment practices pretty quickly. (for those of you that have taught Cambridge's iGCSE or A level, the UK based exams are different).

As for the behaviour issues in the state system, sadly it can be true.