So as you can see PsyGuy, a license is required. In times of great need the organization may waive this requirement, but it isn't likely. To apply the application process asks you to submit your state teaching license. Your application will not become active until you submit all required documents.

And you're wrong again about average time. My CONUS friend applied in December. He did not go active into the system until February. Another friend applied for one of the openings at my school, her application is still pending and she has submitted everything.

And while principals can look at the database of candidates, they can only interview from the list that they are given by HR. I just confirmed this with my admin, who as of today (Wednesday, May 23, 2012) has not received such list and thus cannot begin interviewing. While she can look through the applicant pool, she cannot make contact with any of them until HR has generated her list. Is that clear to you?

Furthermore, I do not believe that you are what you claim to be. You should come with a warning label. A lot of your advice in this thread alone has been wrong. It's because of your wrong advice in this thread that I will never accept, listen to, or take any advice that you offer to any questions that I ask about international schools on this forum.

Consider yourself warned, and do not supply any advice to any thread/question that I ask. It will not be accepted, or taken.

Alright PsyGuy, just because I'm bored at work with not a thing to do. The following comes from this link: http://dodea.edu/offices/hr/employment/teacher.htm

Becoming a Teacher
So you would like to be a teacher?
Becoming a teacher requires at least a bachelor’s degree, usually related to the subject in which you plan to teach. Additionally, advanced training in the field of teacher education such as the learning process, tests and measurement, philosophy, psychology, social foundations, and methods of teaching and assessing curriculum applicable to the type and level of the position for which you are applying is required.

Reciprocity/State Licensure
Contact your state to determine their routes to Teacher Certification. Most states now offer some form of "alternative" certification, [b][i][u]however to be considered for DoDEA through this program, you must have attained a Professional License.[/u][/i][/b] DoDEA will certify you in a field and level which match the certification in your original state as closely as possible. DoDEA participates in the nationwide reciprocity agreement arranged by the National Association of State Directors of Teacher Education and certifications. (NASDTEC) 50 States’ Certification Requirements is a web site that provides a direct link to the states’ teacher certification divisions.

DoDEA Licensure
Only currently employed DoDEA professional educators are eligible to receive DoDEA Licensure. Specifically, you must have a Bachelor’s degree with a major in the subject you plan to teach, 18 Semester Hours in teacher preparation course work, a student teaching experience, and teacher testing. (See Application Requirements and Information.) Position Categories and Requirements define specific required classes.


This comes from http://dodea.edu/offices/hr/categories/default.htm

Teaching Categories & Requirements
(SPECIAL NOTE: Effective January 2009, DoDEA adopted a new business process for rating teacher applications. Minimum Academic Preparation and Requirements and Information, [b][i][u]to include State endorsements (as DoDEA determines comparable to DoDEA's teacher categories)[/u][/i][/b], AND official transcripts reflecting 50% of the course work in the content area, must be considered with each position, where applicable.)

Interesting, Hallier. What kind of person would inflate their resume on an Internet message board meant to assist teachers with making informed decisions about their lives? Who indeed...

No Psyguy, they will only under special circumstances. If you want to work for us, you need a state license. It's plain and simple. In speaking on the phone today with him he said that he can't remember the last time someone was hired without a state teaching license. It might have happened a long time ago, but in recent memory (and he's been in HR with DoDEA for almost 30 years) he can't think of a case where this has happened.

Your best chances at getting HIRED, not CONCIDERED, is to have a license by a state, or U.S. territory. He encourages you to still try if you do not have this, but as he said, it is very unlikely that you will be interviewed as the process to being granted an emergency licensure by DoDEA is long and painful.

He also said that the average for applicants going live is currently 21 days. That's due right now to the back log that they have.

Furthermore, you were incorrect when you said that principals can hire teachers. They can't. He said only HR can. A principal can forwarded their choice on to them, but only HR can offer the position and that happens only have their transcripts and licenses are verified.

So you've been wrong when you've telling people that they can get hired without a license. They can't. It just won't happen because of how many people with the license are applying.

Now stop giving DoDEA advice. You really don't have a clue as to how things work in this organization and I highly doubt that you have a source in the organization other than Google!

@PsyGuy

Whatever you say buddy.

@ All DoDEA Hopefuls

Here is the process spelled out for you from an HR rep in my area that I emailed yesterday:

1. After you submit your application, HR will review your materials. This can anywhere from 5 days, to 2 months depending on the amount of applications. During this process an HR rep is looking over your transcripts and license. We are not reviewing them, just simply looking them over. After we review your file we will place you in the applicant pool.

2. When a position is offered to CONUS we will send admin a list of all eligible candidates. The amount of files that we send to a principal greatly depends on how the position is coded. If the position is a 0100 (elementary teacher) position we may send over 200 applicants to the principal. Sometimes the positions are combined, for instance elementary teacher and ESL certified. That can reduce the number of qualified applicants as well. This number will also depend greatly on where the applicant is willing to work. If you only selected Europe your chances decrease. If you're willing to teach worldwide, your chances greatly increase.

3. Principals interview the candidates and make a selection. They send us the name of the applicant they have selected and we begin to go through the file and look over their transcripts, and license. We do this before the position is officially offered. Principals cannot offer the position, only HR can after the applicant is certified by us.

4. If the applicant meets the requirements the hiring packet is sent to the applicant. They must return it within 5 working days and include their fingerprint card.

To answer your question about DoDEA requirements of state licensure DoDEA, as you are well aware, licenses their own teachers. We will grant resiprocity to all 50 states and U.S. territory licenses. Whatever you are licensed to teach in the states DoDEA will all licenses you to teach.

In lieu of a state license DoDEA, under special circumstances, will grant you a licenses if you've completed 50% of the coursework. This coursework must include methods courses and student teaching experience. If you have not completed any teaching methods courses, or any student teaching, we will not be able to grant you a DoDEA teaching license.

Hope this helps ****** (name removed). Give me a call at ********* (number removed) if you have any questions. I would still encourage your friend with the SPED coursework to apply. We have a big need for that position in our system, and especially in our area. If you'd like me to take a look at their transcripts I will be better equipped to answer your more specific questions.

V/R
********* (name removed)


Hope that settles this!

Yes Ringler, that's what we're saying. You need to be a licensed teacher by a state, or territory. And since you need coursework to get a license, you're pretty much agreeing with what we're saying. Psy is saying that you don't need a state license, I'm saying you do. So in lieu of the coursework, you can use the license. If you don't have the license, you can's use it, right? So if you don't have the coursework, or the license then you can't be a DoDEA teacher.

It's a pretty simple read. No license, no teaching position with us. End of story.

Yes Ringler, that's what we're saying. You need to be a licensed teacher by a state, or territory. And since you need coursework to get a license, you're pretty much agreeing with what we're saying. Psy is saying that you don't need a state license, I'm saying you do. So in lieu of the coursework, you can use the license. If you don't have the license, you can's use it, right? So if you don't have the coursework, or the license then you can't be a DoDEA teacher.

It's a pretty simple read. No license, no teaching position with us. End of story.

You are wrong. You need to be a licensed teacher. Read it again. Read it slower if you have to.

applicants may be considered and [b]hired based on a valid state or territory certificate or license in the subject area for which applying[/b]."

It's still based on being licensed. Plain English. Have a good day. I'm done responding to you. I'll let people make up their own minds about this. They can believe you, a person that's never worked for DoDEA. Or they can believe me. A person that currently works for DoDEA. Choice is theirs. It's payday this Friday and I'll be cashing my DoDEA paycheck either way.

Holy cow are you really an educator?

IN LIEU of MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS
applicants may be considered and [b]hired based on a valid state or territory certificate or license in the subject area for which applying[/b]."

It says considered and hired BASED ON A VALID STATE OR TERRITORY CERTIFICATE OR LICENSE. YOU STILL need to HAVE THAT...

Yep, so individual that we have 1 Director of DoDEA that overseas the America schools, Europe schools and Pacific Schools. Her name is Marilee Fitzgerald. We are not separate organizations, we are separate areas.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You are wrong, again. Batting .000 in this one. Sit down and be quiet already.

[b]applicants may be considered and [b]hired based on a valid state or territory certificate or license in the subject area for which applying[/b]."

Still based on having a valid state or territory certificate or license. Read it careful. You are wrong! You need to be a licensed teacher to work for DoDEA.

[/b]

And no, we weren't always Team DoDEA. There was DDESS which had its own hiring ways and DoDDS which had its own hiring ways. Now we're Team DoDEA and we can all apply for positions in the States, or overseas.

Yet again you are wrong!

I'll take it right from your quoted section:

"In LIEU of meeting the DoDDS minimum qualifications, applicants may be considered and [b]hired based on a valid state or territory certificate or license in the subject area for which applying[/b]."

Based on a VALID STATE OR TERRITORY CERTIFICATE OR LICENSE IN THE SUBJECT AREA FOR WHICH APPLYING.

Holy cow, you are an admin aren't you...

Btw, ddess and dodds are now under one organization called DoDEA.

Wow, you really need to give up this know it all act of yours...

If you'd like I can provide a Comprehension lesson for you. It still states that you need a valid state, or territory, certificate, or license in the subject area that you are teaching. A valid license, or certificate. In other words, you need to be licensed to teach. We do not accept non-licensed teachers. Furthermore we also do not hire teachers without at least 2 years of full-time teaching experience.

Thank you for proving yourself wrong yet again. Sleep well.