Smokegreynblues wrote:
> Okay, since I have been reading the new threads on this forum, a few new
> things have come to light. So I will add a few questions.
>
> Is it possible to do the Florida exam in my case, then get the provisional
> level cert, Move to an American school overseas(wasc accredited), Then use
> the 3-year work experience to be used for a Hawai professional credential?
> And then possibly lead to QTS? Yeah, many steps. But as of now, I don't
> have 6000 USD lying around for teach now, maybe in the future. I was
> thinking of going the AO route in future if I transitioned into a BSO
> School. But again, even AO route costs 2000 USD. And chances of me getting
> a BSO school seems slim.
>
> While getting a Tech centered credential is important for me, getting
> marketable is important as well. I specifically mentioned this pathway, as
> Teachnow seems rather expensive, and if I can do the Florida provisional
> license with just giving an exam, I would be more than willing to do that
> pathway to QTS.

Take a look into iTeach DC. It results in the same Washington DC credential as Teach-Now, but $2,000 cheaper. They have payment plans too.

I'm at my 'dream school'. I imagine I'll be here for the foreseeable future (or until something major happens that pisses me off too much).

Ultimately it comes down to what you're looking for as a teacher vs what the school can offer. Both of those can change over time, so if one (or both) of those factors change too much then it's time to move on.

> 1. We realise the need to complete some teaching practice as part of the
> program and are wondering if anyone has any experience of UK mainstream
> secondary schools providing a platform for this?

I didn't do it the the UK, but I did it abroad. The main things that the school has to do is have the Headteacher sign a form confirming that you spent at least 200 hours working with them in a 3 month period, and be okay with you getting parental permission to video record the students (if the school doesn't have permission already). Ideally they should also provide a mentor who will meet with you regularly and assess you against teaching standards, but if this isn't possible then Teach-Now can assign an online mentor.


> 2. I am wondering if it would be appropriate to ask my school to train him
> (he wants to be an Art and Design teacher) and if necessary perhaps we need
> to contribute to the school fund?

Offering some money to go towards a mentor might be worth investigating. I don't know if Teach-Now offer this already, or whether it would be allowed in case it was interpreted as 'bribing' the mentor. I think the main issue will be finding a school that will take him on for only 3 months.

Boomba wrote:
> Thanks
>
> Late reply but I wonder what you mean about the PRAXIS results and how the
> results can affect my entry in Teach Now. Do they have to know that I
> took/tried them??

When I booked my Praxis tests, I had to select which institution I was attending so that they could automatically send the results to them. At the end of my exam the computer gave me an option to withdraw and not have my scores sent to Teach-Now, so I suppose if you are 100% sure you failed then you could select this option. Obviously the risk is if you end up passing then you've just thrown the test away unnecessarily.

> I assume that PRAXIS tests can be taken as often as one needs?

Yes, but you have to wait 21 days per attempt.

An iPGCE/PGCEi is not a licence, just an academic course that equates to roughly 1/3 of a masters. Teach-Now results in an actual credential. A US teaching credential is more valuable than a British academic qualification, even if you're British.

inmortus wrote:
> Smoko wrote:
> > My main gripe is with the name. I really don't want to put "University
> > of the People" on my resume...
>
> The name is certainly horrible and I really don't know what their marketing team was
> thinking when they came up with it.
>
> Even with regional accreditation it still sounds horrible. Personally, having already
> a master's degree in education I might consider it just to add an extra thing while
> still having a proper name on my resume. That being said, I'm not sure I would
> consider this as my sole graduate degree simply because even if the quality was
> acceptable and even if it was regionally accredited, I know that many recruiters
> would still look down on it simply because of the name (and although this may sound
> superficial the fact is that is how the world works). However, as a second graduate
> degree, it might actually serve as an interesting conversation maker during
> interviews...

Agreed - I think changing their name would probably sway me to study with them more than gaining regional accreditation. It's a shame because I really like their mission and the price is incredible, but putting years of work into something that will probably get laughed at is an issue.

Definitely the cheapest M.Ed out there. It's a relatively new program so very few (if any?) people have completed it yet. The UoPeople subreddit seems pretty useful for gauging the quality of instruction - sounds like a mixed bag of reviews, with a few recurring negative themes (lots of inconsistent peer assessment, poor customer service from university advisors etc). With that said, I don't think it's fair to compare the quality to a university that costs 3 or 4 times the money. I also know it is also going through the process of regional accreditation, which could be quite a game changer.

My main gripe is with the name. I really don't want to put "University of the People" on my resume...

My school is giving a 20% discount for remote learning, but not offering any refunds. Any parents who paid for the year in advance will have their fees credited towards next year.

fine dude wrote:
> This one will cost you 13K US. Accredited and rated highly by employers.
>
> http://www.openuniversity.edu/courses/p ... ations/f70

That's so expensive though. Why not go for a cheaper regionally accredited US university, or any other UK university at a better price? It won't make any difference to most employers (unless it was something exceptional like Oxford or Harvard).

If/when UoPeople get regionally accredited, or if I somehow end up at an IB school, then I will seriously consider their M.Ed even though the university name sounds like a communist diploma mill. It's only $2,660 USD and could very well pay for itself within a year or two. $13,000 would take significantly longer.

metooedu wrote:
> Again, for the billionth time, I have referred to an abuse of power.

And this is the problem - you are referring to an abuse of power when literally all that has happened is a director inviting a new employee to join him for lunch in a group setting.


metooedu wrote:
> I don't care if you personally think I undermine MeToo. You are not the
> person I am trying to help. I listen to victims and hear their voices and
> see just where things went wrong. Because I am the one who gets the phone
> calls and the emails from teachers who have left teaching because of this
> and in a few cases were contemplating suicide because of the abuse they
> received.

But who is the victim in this perfectly normal social situation?


metooedu wrote:
> Because I am the one in the trenches doing the work and trying to get
> schools to align their standards with already existing standards set up by
> human rights organizations and companies who are already way ahead of
> international schools in how they address metoo issues.
>
> Because I am the one who tries to warn others of the danger behind people
> using their position of power to coerce subordinates and then I have to
> listen to an argument about how not all men do this as if I don't already
> know that not all men abuse women. Far too many of them look away when it
> happens, but you want me to clap my hands because some don't directly abuse
> women. Women are by far the victims of this because the people who hold the
> power are mostly men who have been taught that having as much sex with
> women as they can makes them more powerful and manly.

But what part of going to a group lunch implies anything to do with sex or abuse towards women?


metooedu wrote:
> How quickly you jumped to the rescue the character of an anonymous man you
> don't even know that you only perceived I slighted. Would you have jumped
> so quickly to rescue the character of a woman if her reputation and job and
> well-being were destroyed after she SAYS she was targeted by a man? Would
> you even believe her?

Firstly, these are rhetorical questions that are unrelated to this situation. But to answer, if a woman claimed that their reputation and well-being was destroyed after being targeted by a man then I would take it extremely seriously. But again, all that has happened here is an invitation to a group lunch... Not a date, no coercion, and with plenty of other 'witnesses' who would be there if he decided to do something untoward.

metooedu wrote:
> You are literally making the #notallmen argument. You do realize that?
>
>
> https://medium.com/@KirstyStricklan/why ... 57e244f7a1
>
>
> https://www.bustle.com/articles/171595- ... versations
>
>
> https://time.com/79357/not-all-men-a-br ... -argument/

People like you totally undermine the #metoo movement.

How on Earth does getting invited to group lunch turn into a discussion about gender, gaslighting, and himpathy? Hilarious but ridiculous.

teachintl wrote:
> Just joined www.ituf.org .. specificially for International Teachers.
> Hope this helps.

That looks incredibly scammy. Good luck!

I went the other way around (Korea to Thailand). To me it is as simple as as money vs quality of life. Korea definitely had its financial benefits and I really enjoyed my first few months there, but by the end of my contract I couldn't wait to get out. Overall I found it boring and homogeneous, not helped by the fact I disliked my job. Thailand on the other hand is less money but an amazing quality of life.

Obviously teacher experiences will vary depending on personal preferences and the quality of each individual school, but I believe the general trend will be that Thailand is a nice place to live but Korea pays more money.

klooste wrote:
> Thanks for your advice. I do have to disagree with your assertion that a masters
> degree should be obtained for the sole purpose of getting out of the classroom. As
> you stated in your advice, some international schools do require teachers to have
> advanced degrees in the subjects that they are teaching.
>
> Thanks again for your tips.

I don't think I've ever seen an international school require a masters in the subject they are teaching (although maybe there might be a couple out there?). The main benefit for the vast majority of teachers would be to get a raise, move into a new position, or just out of personal interest.

s0830887 wrote:
> I’m American with the Teach Now/DC Credential and I was denied QTS for
> doing my fieldwork outside of the US. :-(

Interesting... Sorry to hear you got knocked back! This makes me suspect that it's specifically Teach-Now on the radar. Psyguy's Mississippi route is probably the safest for now.