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by Aurochs
Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:52 am
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Tsinghua International School, BEIJING CHINA
Replies: 7
Views: 15910

Alternative point of view?

Its can be more accurately be describe as a slam against the education system of China by making sweeping over generalization. You are incapable of presented an "alternative point of view" because you have "zero" knowledge of THIS. The Chinese education system is one of the best in the world, but you seem to act as if it isn't. I would think the Chinese would prefer you say nothing if you called this "defending" them.

What is a contract? A voluntary and legally binding agreement between two or more competent parties. While contracts certainly benefits the school, it also is the only legal means for the teacher as well. I have in past made successful arguments to the school about benefits outline in the contract and also lost arguments pertaining to benefits not explicit in the contract. The bottom line is if it isn't in the contract, then you "ain't" getting it. This is true despite any communication you may receive in writing. This should be a warning for anyone reading this board. In reference to comments about the contract. The contract is inconsistently written giving the impression your benefits are better than what you think you are reading. In some cases, statements made about your benefits were misrepresented.

As far as a conspiracy is concern, I will consult Alex Jones. I hear he is an expert on them. Seriously, I cannot speak for the state of mind or intent of certain admin. The issue of an unclear contract was brought up to the admin. I believe it is currently under review. It doesn't, however, change issues as a result of it. The issue of the contract could also be partially linguistic; the contract is first written in Chinese then later translated to English.

Aurochs, the Venter or PsyGuy the "Presumptor?"

Again, you are presumptuous!
I believe I stated that the school isn't for everyone. I also stated that some people will probably like working at THIS. I also stated that there are hard working teachers who have a positive outlook for the school. I (we) outline some of the issues with the school. If you are uncomfortable working in the this type of environment, it is recommended that you avoid applying to THIS. If you find the issues presented as petty and trivial, by all means, apply to THIS, I am sure if you meet their qualification, they will love to have you work for them.

I have no idea what you mean by "posting in every venue." I posted in the ISR members area review and in the forum so that both members and non- members get an opportunity to read about a group of teachers perspective on THIS.

Lastly, I do not hope nor wish the school to fail in its goal. It has high hopes of being on equal footing with ISB or WAB. If they accomplish this goal, I will be impress and very happy for them. The review wasn't about the school's goal. It is about the current situation.

Here's a another kicker,.... I have not decided if I will stay another year or not. if i am going to help this school reach its goal, the last thing I want are more disgruntled teachers. I cannot tell you more than this as they may be enough information to reveal my identity.

Lastly, I have to say its strange for you to defend "attacking me" by yet launching another wave of attack. The review I posted was edited by no less than 4 other teachers. This is not an emotional response to events, but a factual account of issues relating to the school. If they are petty and trivial, then it is for the reader to decide, not me. Its almost comical that you continuously attempt to "paint me" me as some irrational ranter, when it is you tossing the insults. I can only guess what you mean by the "Foreigner status" mean.... I can only guess it some new presumptuous attack on my character. Seriously, while passive aggressive behavior might be consider cute or tolerable by some people on this board, its tiresome and childish to me.

Aurochs
by Aurochs
Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:02 am
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Tsinghua International School, BEIJING CHINA
Replies: 7
Views: 15910

You really are presumptuous and a kin to ad hominem.

Neither the original posting OR my 2nd posting were my personal opinion. It is a combination of conversation with different teachers and administration had made to me. I am not sure why you insist on attacking me personally. I am only the messenger,.. a beacon of warning.

There are also other issues that other employees have experience at the school that was not in the review. I chose not to include them since I didn't feel confident of a job explaining it as others. When others read this review, I am hoping they will share those issues with the forum and in the ISR review section.

You are also wrong on the fact I am having cultural differences issues. I was aware from the beginning of the cultural differences. In fact, dealing with the high expectations of Chinese parents is a much bigger issue to me than the function of the hierarchy of the school. While this can be frustrating at time, it is hardly a reason to complain, much less, blame the school for it.

Lastly, I indicated in the original posting while it is a hardship for teachers with dependence. The contract itself is misleading paragraph. The teachers with dependence would had chosen to stay at home if they knew what they know now. Hindsight is 20/20 its great that you are gifted.

BTW, the principal comment was also intended to illustrate the confusing manner in which the school is connected, but independent of the High School. Since the visitation of WASC, "Big Wang*" has made an appearance at every THIS event. The debate is whether or not this is a sign of change or just another form of window dressing. An optimist would claim the former a pessimist would assume the latter. The belief is once "Big Wong" sees many of the issues at the school, then he may become personally invested and help ensure the school is properly resource like the High School. So, it actually does matter.

I would agree and disagree that admission policies is not the concern of teachers. Ordinarily, I could care less. In the past, even when questionable students are admitted, they are still resources at your disposal to help the child succeed. So, ordinarily I do not have a problem. If you read the review you see why the admission of students is an issue. Parents who have "paid" to have their child admitted have undermined the disciplinary actions of students. I personally have not had any issues of student discipline. So, as I mentioned, the review above was written from many perspectives.

Lastly, when teaching overseas you are sacrificing. It is always best to sacrifice when you are fully informed. The review is designed to be informative to aid in a person decision to make the sacrifice and work overseas at THIS. If they come to THIS and see what is happening, then they should not be surprise. It isn't about coming to an ideal school. Its about being informed. The honest to god truth is that admins will lie through their teeth to get you to sign a contract. ISR ad other sites like it are designed to aid teachers to make informed decisions.


I am not sure why you are so personally invested in this review of some obscure school in China, but I do appreciate the effort of keeping it on page 1.

[size=9][i]* FYI... in Chinese "Wang" is pronounced as "Wong." He is called Big Wag to differentiate him from the Vice Principal Wang (called Little Wang).
[b]Note: [/b]When I used the term *I* I am speaking as myself. Any 3rd person reference does not necessarily exclude me... it is done as a matter of convenience.
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by Aurochs
Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:48 pm
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Tsinghua International School, BEIJING CHINA
Replies: 7
Views: 15910

I am not sure either motivations for responding to the FYI post, but I wanted to address some assumptions

Tsinghua International School is a National School

Tsinghua International School is not "branded" as a national school. The school primary students have been and continues to be a school that caters to ethnic/ national Chinese that lived in North America for an extended period of time. Recently, the school decided to expand. With the expansion, it added students who are full Chinese nationals with limited ability to speak English.

The school shares a unique relationship with Tsinghua High School. Tsinghua High School is not a typical national school. It is connected with Tsinghua University one of two of the top universities in China that has a excellent reputation world- wide. While other Chinese national schools may or may not be well resource- Tsinghua High School is very well resource.

The factor for THIS not be well resource goes back to the relationship it has with the High School. THIS shares the same facilities with the High School, but not the resources. We are both independent and connected with the high school. This may change with accreditation. For example, "Big Wang" (Principal of the High School) was not explicitly listed as "principal of the THIS" until after the visit. Furthermore, students who are denied entry into the High School is often allowed to enroll at THIS whether or not they are qualified. In some cases, affluent parents pay large sums of money to sway the admin.

Its a lower tier "International" school good entry point
This is pretty nonchalant attitude about people lives with dependent. Perhaps if you are single and in your 20s this might be a good entry level job to have, but not if you are responsible for dependents. Moreover, young or not, choosing to teach overseas should not be a sacrifice. You must always choose the best possible situation for yourself. It is bad advice to do anything less.

Aurochs
by Aurochs
Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:17 pm
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Tsinghua International School, BEIJING CHINA
Replies: 7
Views: 15910

Tsinghua International School, BEIJING CHINA

This is a review posted on THIS in the review section ISR. The school tends to recruit people who may or may not spend money on ISR. if you are serious about teaching overseas, becoming a member of ISR is a must.

The Review...........................................................................

NOTE FROM ISR: WE HAVE REMOVED THIS SCHOOL REVIEW. FOR LEGAL REASONS SCHOOL EVALUATIONS POSTED TO THE MEMBERS' AREA MUST REMAIN IN THE MEMBERS' AREA OF THE WEB SITE. MANY THANKS: FORUM ADMIN