@PsyGuy

We don't know if he is suffering inhumane conditions, but the fact there are cases of torture against foreign prisoners normally will block extradition requests etc.

I really think you should move to Russia. Sounds like you really love and support their regime.

@PsyGuy
"The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, better known as the European Convention on Human Rights, was opened for signature in Rome on 4 November 1950 and came into force on 3 September 1953. It was the first instrument to give effect to certain of the rights stated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and make them binding."

Russia has been ratified since 1998 which ends this week, 16 September 2022. This would mean that when Fogel moved to Moscow and committed his crime he may have thought he would be treated with some respect for his human rights, or at least have some redress if not the case. He is in scary territory.

As for the rest of the nonsense you write, it's not even worth a response.

@PsyGuy
Regardless of the fact that this man clearly committed a crime and needed to be prosecuted. Regardless of whether you think the prison term was trumped up due to politics or not, Russia has an appalling record of torture and human rights abuses in it's prison system. You hate Amnesty, well check out ECHR. They are number two in the list of cases placed against them. This is enough to need Fogel out of prison. Human rights exist for all.

@PsyGuy

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/eur ... ederation/

Some light reading, if you so care.

BTW, just to balance it out, the Ukraine also has a pretty poor track record within it's prison system and many people were campaigning in the EU States to remove the European arrest warrant, due to this.

Yes, we can be naive or blasé about laws in our school's host country. We think it will never happen to us. This teacher needs our support right now. This case was a fine or a much lighter sentence. I agree with nothing you have spouted in this entire thread.

PsyGuy wrote:
> @CeeCee1
>
> Its not an alleged crime he was caught red handed trying to smuggle a
> criminal amount of illegal drugs into the country. Even if you dont want to
> believe the distribution angle, he was still attempting to smuggle illegal
> drugs into the country. He broke the law, full stop. Why should he get a
> pass because some portion of his multiple crimes dont meet your standard of
> proof. He still attempted to smuggle drugs into the country, thats a crime
> with a penalty. Why should he get to go home and ignore the penalty for his
> criminal actions? Everyone else has to follow the law and suffer the
> consequences when they dont, why doesnt he?
I have never disputed that he was in possession of drugs. I dispute the claims he was intending to deal them to his students. I believe his sentence is ridiculously harsh and I DO speculate this could be political. I pray his sentence is reduced. And I pray that one day you can actually achieve some level of compassion for another person's plight.

I do believe suspicion of an alleged crime can lead to investigation, not a charge? I believe concrete evidence of dealing drugs to students needs to then be found. Speculation does not result in a prosecution.

Yeap, yeap and yeap, but with intent to sell to his students @PsyGuy. Baseless.

@PsyGuy

These two high profile arrests are suspiciously timed, are they not? Late Winter 2022, US citizens. Britteny Gilner pleaded guilty as she was advised they would show leniency? They did not. Strange. There are also alleged problems with the initial search and during questioning.
Yes, we must abide by host country rules, but politics and corruption are a different matter and if our schools and fellow ITs turn against us, then are we not cherry picking human rights abuses as an excuse to stay in our nice overseas gig.