PsyGuy wrote:
> @formershark
>
> Kind of a long wait.
>
> You are in a different scenario than others, youre an American, you
> completed a US EPP/ITT program. You completed Teach Now but you didnt say
> if you applied for the HI Standard credential using the Teach Now EPP/ITT
> or if you got the DC Credential first? Regardless, your not like others who
> applied as non-US Citizens and with outside qualifications and credentials.
> You might not be HI target in the future, and you have a different dossier.
> Its more likely than not, that that is the way its going to go though, that
> HI will clean house in its entirety. You may have more time, and it may be
> enough time that in four years if you see the heat coming around the corner
> you may be able to just let the HI credential expire. You may also want to
> consider moving it elsewhere such as NJ which offers a true lifetime
> credential, but WA, is another option which offers a comparable
> professional grade credential thats valid for 2 years but two years of work
> in WA so you will never use any of that time and it will never expire and
> may be easier to qualify for.
>
> Surrendering your HI credential even if it results in a disciplinary action
> isnt likely to effect your QTS. Its possible at some point in the future
> that the TRA might require you to reaffirm another credential. The only
> practical way to rescind your QTS would be is if you misrepresented your
> HI credential in the first place, but there are plenty of ITs who obtained
> QTS and then let their prior credentials expire, or stopped renewing them.
> You could get ahead of this and choose sooner rather than later to
> surrender your HI credential, it would allow you to check the other box as
> opposed to the avoiding disciplinary action box, you could state its to
> avoid PD, retiring, leaving teaching, etc. It wouldnt be reportable then,
> again though you might want to look at using the HI credential to first
> obtain another credential
>
> https://hawaiiteacherstandardsboard.org ... 3-22-1.pdf

@psyguy

Thank you for taking the time to help me out. I'm gonna think about it for a few days, but I'm leaning towards voluntarily surrendering the license for 2 reasons. 1) I don't want to wait around for HTSB to email me & 2) I'd like to surrender my license and avoid the disciplinary action. Do you think that's a good way to handle this? Is there anything I am missing or maybe not aware of?

Final question if I may - What reason would you use for surrendering the license? I was thinking about using... "Unable to meet PD requirements"

Thanks again - you are a legend.

In about 5 years

@psyguy

You are the expert so I am hoping you could tell me what you think of my current situation.

I am an American and completed the Teach-Now program. I applied for the Hawaii Standard license and received it because I have been working at a public elementary school in Asia for the past 5 years. This was done before the HTSB changed their requirements.

Immediately after receiving my Hawaii Standard license, I applied for QTS and received it. I did this after reading your posts and figured it was worth a shot.

So I currently have a Hawaii Standard license and QTS.

I imagine the HTSB will eventually email me asking to surrender my license because all of my teaching experience has been done outside the USA. My question is - what would you do in my situation? If I surrender my Hawaii Standard license, would that have any effect on my QTS? Would there be any risk of also losing my QTS because I originally used the Hawaii Standard license to get the QTS or am I safe because QTS is lifelong? I don't want to lose my QTS.

I have no intention of ever going back to live or teach in the USA. My career is teaching English abroad and I now have a family and roots overseas. The reason I applied for QTS is so that I don't have to worry about keeping up to date on all the different PD requirements with an American teaching license.

Just to be clear - I'm an American that currently has a Hawaii Standard license and QTS. If I surrender my Hawaii Standard license due to HTSB recently changing their requirements, is there any risk of also losing my QTS or am I in the clear because QTS is lifelong?

Thank you in advance to @psyguy or any other member that has advice / insight.