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by muinteoir
Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:05 pm
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: PGCE again sorry
Replies: 3
Views: 3960

Re: PGCE again sorry

Just two small additions to PsyGuy's comment:

1. In the first one (PGCE only), the placements are done in the same year, not two academic years. In the northern hemisphere, there is one in autumn (usually end of October to mid-December) and one in spring of the same academic year (usually March-May).

2. There is no "UK curriclum", PsyGuy is referring to the English National curriculum.

From the Sunderland Website: The AOR to QTS is also possible if you wish to be assessed while teaching overseas. Please note that you must be at a school that runs the English National Curriculum, or a school that runs a recognised international curriculum (such as IB, IPC, Cambridge, etc).

You can do PGCE first and later take the Assessment Only Route (AOR) to QTS (currently £2000). I don't know what the advantage would be.
https://www.sunderland.ac.uk/study/shor ... route-qts/

I would go with the PGCE+iQTS if I had my time again!
by muinteoir
Tue Aug 23, 2022 3:49 pm
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Looking for advice on PGCE vs TEACH NOW
Replies: 5
Views: 4315

Re: Looking for advice on PGCE vs TEACH NOW

I only did a PGCE (through Distance Learning via a UK university) and found employment in Europe immediately after graduating. I looked at hundreds of job posts and many only ask for a PGCE. There are plenty which ask for QTS but you definitely have options with just the PGCE. I only looked in Europe so perhaps the situation is different elsewhere.
I don't have QTS (the teaching licence for British schools) but the University of Sunderland (and 5 other UK unis) now offer a PGCE with iQTS which can be converted to QTS. It is expensive but I think for one year of study it opens up a lot of options. I am fairly new to education and don't know anything about Teach Now, but I wish the iQTS was an option when I was training, I definitely would have gone for it. More information: https://www.sunderland.ac.uk/help/study ... e-iqts-dl/
by muinteoir
Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:56 pm
Forum: Forum 2. Ask Recruiting Questions, Share Information. What's on Your Mind?
Topic: Antwerp International school
Replies: 1
Views: 13660

Re: Antwerp International school

It might be a good idea to contact the school directly. I'm sure their contact information is available on their website.
by muinteoir
Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:37 am
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: How many class periods per week do you have?
Replies: 29
Views: 39674

Re: How many class periods per week do you have?

14.66 hours (16 x 55 min classes). 70%-ish of the available teaching time in the school day.
by muinteoir
Sun May 30, 2021 12:37 pm
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Advice on what to do next...
Replies: 24
Views: 20792

Re: Advice on what to do next...

Ireland refers to the island of Ireland, which is made up of Northern Ireland, and the Republic of Ireland - more commonly referred to as Ireland.
Ireland usually means the Republic, not the North.

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ANYWAY, word on the street has it that an 'iQTS' may be established in the coming years, allowing completion of AOR to QTS using a curriculum other than the English National Curriculum. Hopefully this will open new avenues for ITs.
by muinteoir
Sun May 02, 2021 1:20 am
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Advice on what to do next...
Replies: 24
Views: 20792

Re: Response

PsyGuy wrote:

> The English NC is the UK NC, there is almost no presence of ISs that offer an Irish or Scottish curriculum in IE.

1. Ireland is not part of the UK
2. You (incorrectly) imply that English/UK are interchangeable, then (correctly) point out that Scotland have a different curriculum. This could potentially add to the confusion of my previous posts.

Mea culpa; I said UK when I meant England. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland all have their own curricula, and I hope that I have clarified for the poster that for AOR to QTS via a UK university, you would need to be in a school running the English National Curriculum.
by muinteoir
Sun May 02, 2021 1:06 am
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Advice on what to do next...
Replies: 24
Views: 20792

Re: Advice on what to do next...

secondplace wrote:
> Periodic, and pedantic, reminder that there is no UK National
> Curriculum....there is an English NC and a lot of British schools run with
> that...

My bad, thank you for pointing out. English curriculum! You need to be in a school which runs the National Curriculum for England to do AOR to QTS in another country. As PsyGuy points out, that doesn't need to be a British school, it can be any international school which runs that curriculum.
by muinteoir
Sat May 01, 2021 4:16 am
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Advice on what to do next...
Replies: 24
Views: 20792

Re: Advice on what to do next...

For Assessment Only Route, you don't need to be in the UK. You need to be in a school which runs the UK national curriculum, which could be any British Overseas School/British International School. Getting into one of those schools to do this assessment (approx. 12 weeks via Sunderland, for example) is another story, but I just wanted to point out that you can be abroad and do AOR to QTS.

I'm in Western Europe and while many schools ask for QTS, and it would indeed open some options, many schools accept PGCE and teaching experience. The country of issue of the PGCE has never been specified, and I have never seen "experience teaching in a UK school" as a pre-requisite either. I know that QTS is essential for visas in certain countries, but if it is not the case in the country where you wish to work, you may never really need it.

Have you actually tried applying for jobs yet? If you were to apply for openings (I know of a few in primary in my current country at the moment), you might be surprised with who invites you for an interview. Good luck!
by muinteoir
Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:19 am
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Avoid Swiss boarding schools
Replies: 68
Views: 156894

Re: Avoid Swiss boarding schools

secondplace wrote:
> I know.
>
> But I just thought it wouldn't hurt to set the record straight for anyone
> who might chance across the conversation.

As a newcomer here, I find the input from all perspectives most useful in sifting through the wealth of information on this site. Thank you for your contribution, it was not wasted!
by muinteoir
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:23 am
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: How long is your commute?
Replies: 15
Views: 21668

Re: How long is your commute?

Someone from my very rainy home country once advised me: "No such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes!". I now live in an equally rainy country and make do with waterproof helmet cover, jacket and trousers :-) You get used to it!
by muinteoir
Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:06 am
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: How long is your commute?
Replies: 15
Views: 21668

Re: How long is your commute?

Mine is 40 mins by bike. Yes, it's a time suck, but I'm fresh when I get to school, decompress on the journey home, and get a bit of exercise in along the way. I don't mind it, but it really does add up.
by muinteoir
Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:01 am
Forum: Forum 2. Ask Recruiting Questions, Share Information. What's on Your Mind?
Topic: Getting into International Schools with little experience
Replies: 2
Views: 15201

Re: Getting into International Schools with little experience

I opted for the Sunderland PGCEi for a few reasons. As far as I can remember, most of them I looked at required you to be already employed in an institution, which I wasn't. The Sunderland course has a teaching practicum block and the Nottingham one doesn't, so I needed this to build experience. The PGCEi can also be used towards the M.Ed. from Sunderland; the Nottingham course cannot be transferred. I'm not sure yet if I'll continue down that path, but it was something to consider.
I was very happy with the Sunderland course and am happy to answer any questions about it should you ever need.
by muinteoir
Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:29 am
Forum: Forum 1. From Questions About ISS & Search to Anything and Everything About International Teaching
Topic: Post-degree supervised teaching practice in order to obtain QTS
Replies: 5
Views: 6201

Re: Post-degree supervised teaching practice in order to obtain QTS

Elysium82 wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I hold a BA and a PGCEi (no QTS).
>
> Is there a way to obtain the necessary supervised practice in order to be
> considered for QTS just in a few weeks/months as part of a simplified
> programme that doesn't cost a fortune?
>
> AO routes cost around 4k pounds. That is way too much. I am currently not
> employed and I don't see myself obtaining a job at a school that uses the
> British curriculum. Getintoteaching used to have something similar, but due
> to cuts of gov funds they expect people to work for free now for year in
> order to award them QTS. That is something I can't do (mainly because I
> hold an EU passport and now the UK has shut the doors to EU members
> completely). I am not planning to study again and be part of a teacher
> training course. I just need the supervised teaching side of it.
>
> Thank you.

The AO route with Sunderland is £1850. Is there any way at all you could find a British curriculum school in Europe where you could just be on placement for 3 months and get QTS over and done with?