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Master's of Ed but no cert...

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:17 pm
by NiuBi
Hello,

I have been teaching at 3rd tier schools for 3yrs (MS math/science)and have done a yr kindergarten ESL teaching. I have a MEd SecEd and a science BA. I did not gain my teacher's cert because that would of meant going back to the states for a year to do student teaching. What are the possibilities to getting into a good paying 2nd tier position? ANY possibilities of getting into a 1st teir school?

Thanks

Any possibilities of getting certified without return home for a year? Is there some place to apply for one with my credentials? Another state? Another country?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:30 pm
by NiuBi
So you are saying even with experience and Master's in Education (NOT chem,Psy-guy) any chance of getting into the "good" schools?

I only did ESL for 1 yr...did math/science at "real" international school for 3 yrs...2 at one and 1 at another....but were both nothing more than high 3rd or low 2nd tier schools.

What about good 2nd tier schools, that atleast pay decent.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:35 pm
by interteach
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:49 pm
by NiuBi
Thanks teach,

Ive paid up at TIE for job listings, but maybe search is worth a shot...do you mind if I ask what field you taught? I am looking at going the chem route as that is my educational forte.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:37 am
by NiuBi
Here psyguy...I went and highlighted my previous post so you could follow along.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:14 am
by mathgym
Nuibi, I am a little confused too. You have a Masters's in Secondary Education, but not a teaching credential? I guess where I got my MA in Education, you had to first have a teaching certificate to enter the program or they went hand in hand, you didn't get one without the other.
If you are a science teacher, you probably have a good chance at getting picked up somewhere. But, honestly, lots of intl teachers have an MA degree.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:24 am
by pikefish
There are a number of teachers where I am without certification. The bottom line is if you are an exceptional teacher with some experience, you will compete for solid positions.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:08 am
by NiuBi
Ok, I understand where I wasnt being clear. My Master's is in Education... MEd (not MA) with a concentration in SecEd. My BA is Natural Sci (physical conc) and a minor in Chem.

Sorry about the confusion folks.

I opted out of the cert because it would of meant returning home to do some of the classes and do a year probationary student teaching(didnt want to be with out my wife). My Master's was online inclusive if you opted out of the cert.

Pike thanks for the info. Mind if I ask which country?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:32 am
by augustus
Hi NiuBi...
You have some options regarding certification too....For example, Massachusetts has different types of certification. The provisional license is for people that have passed the state licensing exams (2 basics skills tests + subject matter test ) but have yet to complete student teaching. This license is valid for 5 years of employment, which is a VERY important distinction! The clock doesn't start ticking until you are employed by a public school in Massachusetts. If you don't teach in the state, the license will stay current. My spouse and I teach at a top tier school in Asia that does require certification. When we first decided to teach overseas few years ago, my husband went this route to get his certification. The Department of Ed. was very helpful and answered all of our questions regarding the provisional license. We found that calling them was much more helpful than using the website (781.338.6600)

The state licensing exams (MTELs) have test dates throughout the year and there is usually an exam over the summer. http://www.mtel.nesinc.com/


Good Luck!

--Gus

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:43 am
by NiuBi
Awesome, thanks Gus

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:41 am
by interteach
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